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To: Dale Baker who wrote (7993)	3/10/2004 4:36:37 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Interesting: Bauer on Jobs Meanwhile, another leading conservative is warning that the Bush Administration's perceived indifference to American jobs being shipped overseas could well drive heartland voters to the John Kerry camp. Pro-family leader Gary Bauer says on a visit to his home state of Kentucky over the weekend, there was the same "sour mood" about continued job losses that he observed in conservative western Michigan the week before. And he notes a similar unrest evolving in North Carolina where people in textiles, furniture, and fiber optics are losing their jobs to low-paid workers in places like China. "If President Bush want to have a second term," the American Values president says, "his Administration has to do more than suggest that job outsourcing is merely the marketplace at work. The marketplace doesn't have to run for re-election [and] workers in Beijing and Calcutta don't get to vote in U.S. elections." Bauer says the Bush White House needs to start talking about the fears and anxieties of American families or it runs the risk of John Kerry "hijacking the heartland." headlines.agapepress.org

To: Dale Baker who wrote (7993)	3/10/2004 8:22:48 AM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20773

With all the discussion centered on Iraq and security, that is not the way to the White House for Kerry. Someone should tell him that he can't win on those issues. They grab our attention here but, in the real American world, the people are pleased with the post 9/11 actions, despite the horrid PR and "management." However, there is a groundswell reaction against the crazed religious right and Bush's pandering to them. As we briefly discussed a couple of days ago, the war on obscenity is making us look something like the Taliban. Howard Stern's 20 million listeners may actually swing the vote. Irrespective of whether one listens or enjoys stuff that is threatened, most of us just think it's absurd to spend governmental resources (other than protecting children) regulating disk jockies. I enjoyed but realized it's wrong to bring bare boobs into the family superbowl observance. However, the reaction to it and to alleged lewd discussions on the radio is turning many voters towards the risk from religious fanatics. (I understand in Europe that bare boobs are virtually common place in daily TV fare. I doubt it creates sex craved perverts to a statistically significant degree.) The agenda of the religious fanatics directly affects the lives of Americans. Stem cell research - banned or affected by religious nuts for example. Anyone with cancer or genetic illnesses in the family has to seriously question the logic here. Prayer in schools, abortion, nudity, steroids, weed, etc. Don't our leaders have more important things to do than regulate what people do in private? Of course, we need to make sure extreme action is prevented, e.g. child porn, but the billions spent on victimless actions is just absurd. If Kerry campaigned on this and just said - "we will protect the nation, go after terrorists, go after those who harbor and consort with terrorists and we will do it more efficiently and more honestly and openly. We will simplify government, simplify the tax code and take government out of your bedroom. Super wealthy are those who die with more than $10 million or who consistently make $1 million each and every year. We are not going to hurt the upper middle class." ching ching - we have a winner!!! I've seen many studies that a flat tax rate - even the Ron Regan 17% post card tax return - would lead to the virtual elimination of the underground economy and maybe even balance the budget if you take the rest of the pork and corporate welfare out. Less incentive to cheat and easier to find out and severely punish those who do cheat. Of course, the left has to stop this with their vested interests and "progressive v regressive" arguments. Most voters and potential voters (a larger group than most realize given the abysmal percentage who vote) are turned off by the size and inefficiency of government. So far, Kerry hasn't given us anything that would lead us to believe that he will be anything but a typical left leaning hack who will say whatever his audience wants to hear.