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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg or e who wrote (16659)3/10/2004 4:54:39 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"Paul did write things down didn't he?"

People in the Christian Movement certainly did write things down--contradictory and absurd things years after the purported facts.

Paul wrote at least 20 years after the death of Jesus. He knew nothing personally about Jesus. He wrote some of what he had heard as a member of the Christian movement. He had not even heard of his "miracles". Apparently, 20 years after Christ there were not yet any miracles for Jesus.

Philo Judaeus knew everything that was pertinent to the Jewish nation during the time of Jesus. Look, for example, at his lengthy writing on Flaccus. For you to suggest that he knew nothing about the most famous Jew living then. About the Jew who was bringing people back from the dead, walking on water, and being resurrected. And then after, about 120 odd disciples instantly becoming fluent in world languages and witnessed as so by people from a multitude of Nations--for you to suggest Philo knew nothing of these most extraordinary events is to expose your entire argument as worthless evasion.

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Remsberg:

"Philo was born before the beginning of the Christian era, and lived until long after the reputed death of Christ. He wrote an account of the Jews covering the entire time that Christ is said to have existed on earth. He was living in or near Jerusalem when Christ's miraculous birth and the Herodian massacre occurred. He was there when Christ made his triumphal entry into Jerusalem. He was there when the crucifixion with its attendant earthquake, supernatural darkness, and resurrection of the dead took place -- when Christ himself rose from the dead, and in the presence of many witnesses ascended into heaven. These marvelous events which must have filled the world with amazement, had they really occurred, were unknown to him. It was Philo who developed the doctrine of the Logos, or Word, and although this Word incarnate dwelt in that very land and in the presence of multitudes revealed himself and demonstrated his divine powers, Philo saw it not.

Josephus, the renowned Jewish historian, was a native of Judea. He was born in 37 A.D., and was a contemporary of the Apostles. He was, for a time, Governor of Galilee, the province in which Christ lived and taught. He traversed every part of this province and visited the places where but a generation before Christ had performed his prodigies. He resided in Cana, the very city in which Christ is said to have wrought his first miracle. He mentions every noted personage of Palestine and describes every important event which occurred there during the first seventy years of the Christian era. But Christ was of too little consequence and his deeds too trivial to merit a line from this historian's pen.

Justus of Tiberius was a native of Christ's own country, Galilee. He wrote a history covering the time of Christ's reputed existence. This work has perished, but Photius, a Christian scholar and critic of the ninth century, who was acquainted with it, says: "He [Jesus] makes not the least mention of the appearance of Christ, of what things happened to him, or of the wonderful works that he did" (Photius' Bibliotheca, code 33).

Judea, where occurred the miraculous beginning and marvelous ending of Christ's earthly career, was a Roman province, and all of Palestine is intimately associated with Roman history. But the Roman records of that age contain no mention of Christ and his works. The Greek writers of Greece and Alexandria who lived not far from Palestine and who were familiar with its events, are silent also.
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