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To: tejek who wrote (184568)	3/14/2004 2:19:02 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575348

Ted Re..The GOP and Bush have insulted my intelligence to the point where I have no patience with their nonsense......... LOL Yeah right, only in your dreams are you such a mental giant. Tell me then, just where have you been hiding said genius; it certainly hasn't come out in your posts. Name me one post matching the genius of Bertrand Lewis, ar Ann Rand. Your better than thou attitude you leftist claim to have, makes most people want to puke. Get over yourself. You forget I may be a liberal but I am also a fiscal conservative. Yeah right, a true Kerryism. ONe position today, another tommorrow.

To: tejek who wrote (184568)	3/15/2004 8:25:11 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575348

You are mistaking my anger for partisanship. Partisanship motivated by anger is still partisanship. Which as I said isn't necessarily wrong (if you honestly see one party as being significantly worse then the other then you should be partisanly against it) but it should be recognized for what it is. You forget I may be a liberal but I am also a fiscal conservative. There is nothing more disturbing to a fiscal conservative than to watch someone pork out at the trough without any constraint. This has been happening fairly consistently since at least the great society but really since the New Deal. Bush is a good example of someone who spends to much but most of the governments in modern American history haven't thought much about spending a lot more and in general expanding government. Clinton had an interesting twist on this in that, at least after the Republicans took control of congress, he didn't expand spending as much as Bush is now but he instead expanded regulations forcing businesses and to an extent state and local governments to spend in the areas were he wanted resources to be spent. When Al complained about the wasteful spending, you went on this long winded [defensive] explanation trying to show that Bush's spending wasn't all that bad [in comparison to the spending during WW II You don't really seem to pay much attention to what I post. I wasn't talking about spending at all but rather government debt levels and how sustainable they where. I compared them to WWII and other times only because Al said the debt was the least sustainable ever. I showed that his statement was false but then I added that if he merely wanted to say the debt was high and could cause problems that he would get no argument from me. Well, what do you call people who go to war under false pretenses; who say a budget item will cost one number and then when its passed by Congress go "Oops, I bad......its going to cost a lot more" Bush apparently has learned from the Dems, which is not something that should make one feel proud of him. Social Security, Medicate ect. where all supposed to cost far less then they did even after just a few years. or who claim the CIA mislead them re. Iraq when it turns out they bypassed the CIA completely? I don't think that statement is accurate. If you want to defend these charlatans, be my guest but don't turn around and call me partisan. If you want to call me partisan for defending them then go ahead but your pattern of attacking them shows obvious partisan bias. Of course if all your attacks where correct then perhaps you should be partisan but you shouldn't claim not to be partisan. Most of my defenses are responses to inaccurate attacks. If everyone here was posting about how Bush had kept such a tight lid on spending I would be responding to that inaccurate statement. The Bush administration has a number or real imperfections and problems. But the best way to deal with them is not to exaggerate the real problems and then go on to make up more. I'll say what I don't like about Bush - He spends far too much, he isn't as committed to free trade and reducing regulation as I would like, and his administration is a bit to secretive. I could think of other things if I cared to make the effort but those are the big things. Now if you are really so non-partisan there must be some things about the Bush administration that you life, even if they are overshadowed by the faults. He isn't Hitler, or bin Laden or the devil. What do you like about Bush or his administration. What have they done well? Tim