Gus - sometimes I feel that I'm responding to someone who really wishes to analyze and come up with something that makes sense. Other times, your posts lead me to believe that you have a very simple agenda that feeds from a long-standing hatred.
The posts to which you referred are actually quite interesting. I've studied the art of the conspiracy theory as well methods of debate.
I've come to believe that there is often more to governmental actions than is commonly believed. That's not really an astute observation, but from a cynic, and a "show me" type person, it's a strong step for me to admit. I've studied the JFK assassination extensively and strongly believe that elements of the US government, in official or unofficial capacity, were involved with that, as well as the Martin Luthor King killings and perhaps even the murder of Robert Kennedy.
All three would have a common thread if a strong right wing element were involved, blaming Cuba-Russia for Oswald and the Arabs for JFK. MLK is a tough one to fit into that theory.
Now - the reason I bring this up. Most "normal" students would stop and say, "I'm stretching." I'm trying very hard to show that MLK was killed by the same "ruling cabal."
I admit I'm neither very good with my analysis nor do I have the resources to do this. I do know people who have made the JFK murder their life work and who have studied this seemingly forever. I also know that they are no further along than what I have presented here. They are more vehement but when it comes down to actual proof, it just is not there. Perhaps in 100 years, when all archives are open, it will be there, but who knows?
Again - that tells someone who is a "normal" student and not subsumed by ego that perhaps the theory that I'm trying to prove is incorrect. I could go on and blame it on secrecy, on continuing "cover-up" and conspiracy upon conspiracy. On the other hand, I could consider perhaps that parts of my theory are incorrect. Just because it's "my" theory, doesn't make it, ipso facto, correct.
The way I see you is that you are obsessed with the grand theory. Add to that a base hatred of Jews, a deeply held theory that they somehow control the world, have allied themselves with powerful nations, such as the US, to gather further control of the world.
There are many ways to make an argument, whether it is in court or on the internet. Most find sources of precedent and then use that to prove a theory or argument. The most manipulative (which is not necessarily a bad term) find the theory first and then use precedent to support their theory. You fall into the latter category. As I suggested, this is not necessarily bad. However, you seem so consumed with your bias that your hatred controls what seems to be an otherwise logical way of looking at arguments.
There have always been theories floating that the "other guy" controls the resources, from the beginning of recorded history. There is always someone who is jealous of someone else's riches. It's human nature to say the other person has "more" because he cheated or stole or conspired to do "me" ill. It's harder to say, maybe I should work harder for my goals.
Scapegoats and targets are more inviting if they are hard-working, a small minority, and slightly different and easy to "point-out." When times are tough, it's very easy to point them out. Those who are most affected by tough times will easily "pile on" and want to attack the scapegoats because they are a minority and easy to beat with cowardly tactics and the scapegoats have the riches or power that are so sorely in demand.
One could spend about 15 minutes and come up with a theory, a grand one, that connects historical dots, and then find "cut and paste" precedent on the internet to prove a theory no matter how whacky it might be.
For example, I'm involved with young people trying desperately to get into the best colleges. I've overheard their complaints about Asians getting admitted in great numbers. They must be "bribing" or maybe it's politics. Look at China in the world and then the connections with US governmental officials from the 1960's on. It's easy to see these young people earnestly trying to justify their problems by attacking this, for them, new "enemy." When I heard one, who I thought had very little bias, proclaim in disgust, "imagine he's dating an Asian," I had to find out the source of this new bigotry.
That's long enough for a post and I'm sure you get the point. Good luck with your "grand theories." I respectfully suggest that most readers realize that, at most, they are interesting, and that more likely, they represent the worst type of demagoguery.
The internet has been a two-edged sword for those who are "grand conspiracy" theorists. The hate-mongers have an easy rode to spreading their bias and backing it up with "cut and paste" precedent. On the other hand, it's harder to keep the kind of secrets that may have been behind the JFK murder. Sources, leaks, discoveries, etc., are harder to silence today. This is why I laugh when I read the goofy threads about Bush doing 9/11 or little Jewish midgets planting tiny nukes on the WTC buildings or Russia, France and Israel working to blow up the towers or Spielberg (the Jew) hired to create a massive hologram.
Back in 1938, Hitler may have been able to convince the right people of all that. In today's world, even the masses know this stuff is whacky and goofy and are laughing at the Hitlers before they move. There are more Hitlers thanks to the internet but they won't get anywhere. |
