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To: greenspirit who wrote (126093)	3/13/2004 9:58:45 AM
From: Sig	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<<Perhaps Spain and the rest of Europe will now take the threat as seriously as America and Britain have? >> People of most Nations live under the protection of their governments, while pursuing their own interests in business or pleasure with some needed sense of security. Expecting their officials to handle foreign affairs or major threats. Would expect a change in attitude on behalf of Spanish populous who opposed their leaders participation in the active fighting in Iraq and elsewhere. Sig@allinsameboatnow.com

To: greenspirit who wrote (126093)	3/13/2004 6:03:40 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Respond to of 281500

>>while funnelling money into corrupt French banks and greedy U.N. politicians<< Huh?! Re >>security of America not the rest of the world<< that's correct. It's what I would term "think locally, act globally". What a steal. >>Perhaps Spain and the rest of Europe will now take the threat as seriously as America and Britain have<< Huh?! again

To: greenspirit who wrote (126093)	3/13/2004 9:41:38 PM
From: boris_a	Respond to of 281500

>Perhaps Spain and the rest of Europe will now take the threat as seriously as America and Britain have? Yes. Now we take the consequences of this idiotic "War on Terror" seriously. It's no longer about the deep pockets of the American Dynastic Ancien Regime (aka GOP).

To: greenspirit who wrote (126093)	3/15/2004 4:23:22 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi Michael D. Cummings; Re: "On the other hand, surrounding Iraq for decades, starving children and watching while thousands upon thousands of people were tortured and killed, while funnelling money into corrupt French banks and greedy U.N. politicians would have guaranteed no terrorist bombings around the world?" This is such a badly thought out opening sentence that it is almost impossible for me to reply to it without laughter. (a) You make the error of pretending that there were only two options to deal with Iraq. (b) You blithely assume that there were starving children in Iraq despite the fact that this propaganda was promulgated by liberals who will say nearly anything if it makes the US look bad. Since our invasion, it now appears that Iraq had a well functioning food distribution system that we are still using. (c) Almost all of those thousands upon thousands of people were not being tortured and killed in Iraq were not being tortured and killed in 2004. Iraq's experience of violence is almost all associated with war and rebellion. Our war killed thousands upon thousands, and now the resulting rebellion is killing more thousands. (d) Since the war we seem to have seen no let up in terrorist bombings (as witness the recent experience of Spain), so I would think that you would be too embarrassed to bring it up. As long as we're on the subject, the invasion of Iraq was going to stop Saddam's funding of Palestinian suicide bombers yet somehow it goes on as well. -- Carl