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Politics : WAR on Terror. Will it engulf the Entire Middle East? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: rrufff who wrote (6851)	3/13/2004 5:31:24 PM
From: hdl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

at this point, israel should have west bank denuded of palestinians. israel should not have to live next to the murderous palestinians any longer. palestinians should pay a price for their behaviour over the past 56 years.

To: rrufff who wrote (6851)	3/13/2004 8:01:19 PM
From: steve kammerer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

"WTF are you talking about? Who did Israel assasinate?" Count Bernadotte, appointed United Nations Mediator by the General Assembly on the day the Mandate ended, was dispatched to Palestine to supervise the cease-fire and to "promote a peaceful adjustment of the future situation in Palestine". He successfully effected a temporary truce and submitted his first suggestions on Palestine, proposing a "Union comprising two members, one Arab and one Jewish". The plan proposed some territorial adjustment in the borders, return of all refugees, and some limitations on Jewish immigration. 81/ Both sides rejected the plan, Israel particularly objecting to the proposals regarding immigration. The Bernadotte proposals As the first truce expired, the Mediator urged another indefinite truce, which was ordered by the Security Council on 15 July. The findings of the Mediator's mission are summarized from his report: "The Arab leaders had become greatly concerned and incensed about the mounting distress among the huge number of Arab refugees. They considered the solution of this problem fundamental to a settlement of the Palestine question. I recognized that, in the Arab States, public opinion on the Palestine question was considerably agitated ... "... (the talks) ... had made it quite apparent that the Jewish attitude had stiffened in the interval between the two truces, that Jewish demands in the settlement would probably be more ambitious, and that Jewish opinion was less receptive to mediation. A feeling of greater confidence and independence had grown out of Jewish military efforts during the interval between the two truces. Less reliance was placed in the United Nations and there was a growing tendency to criticize its shortcomings with regard to Palestine ..." 82/ The Arab States refused an Israeli offer of direct negotiations, transmitted through the Mediator. Bernadotte concluded that his earlier recommendation of a Union was unworkable. He made new recommendations, based on the premise that the Palestinians and Arabs must accept the existence of Israel. The new plan envisaged an Arab State encompassing Transjordan joined with most of the territory allotted by the partition resolution to the "Arab State" but with far-reaching territorial adjustments that would consolidate Arab territory by including the Negev, while Galilee would be taken over by Israel. Jerusalem would be placed under United Nations administration. 83/ This plan, too, was rejected both by the Arab States (except Jordan) and by Israel. Bernadotte had proposed other measures but, before the United Nations could act on any of his recommendations, he was assassinated by, in the Israeli official view, the Stern Gang, one of several terrorist organizations whose activities had become more open since the end of the Mandate. The report to the United Nations of the assassination indicated that the attitude of the Israeli Provisional Government had done little to hinder a press campaign against the Mediator and the United Nations "to the effect that the Mediator was arbitrarily opposed to Jewish claims; and that supervision of (the) truce deliberately discriminated against the interest of Israel". The Stern group's threat that "the task of the moment is to oust Bernadotte ... Blessed be the hand that does it" had not been given any "particular significance" by the Israeli authorities, despite the fact that it emanated from a notoriously violent group. The Israeli Foreign Minister had explained that "the Stern Group ... existed within Israel only as a political organization, having disbanded itself as a military organization, and its members were being absorbed into the army as individuals". Count Bernadotte's killers had been wearing Israeli army uniforms. The report noted that "the Provisional Government of Israel must assume the full responsibility ... for these assassinations ..." 84/

To: rrufff who wrote (6851)	3/13/2004 8:08:53 PM
From: steve kammerer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32591

"Very few in Israel and very few American supporters care about the theories of "greater Israel." It's bogus. Why do you think that Sharon is now proposing the unilateral withdrawal. His last attempt at a legacy of peace acknowledges his mistakes and boldly attempts to foster peace. I was surprised that he did this and I think it is a bold initiative." The ONLY place I learned of "Greater Israel" is the Jerusalem Post. Seem to be an awful lot of "bogus" writers. Sharon is proposing to remove 7,000 settlers, which the US should pay for. The other 144,000? He proposed to annex a couple of settlements (read: grab more land) during the last few days. You are truly a propagandist. I just wonder if you are paid. Read your own newspaper!!!! You sound like that poor schnook in Iraq who was left blowing in the wind saying that there were no US troops around while the split screen TV showed our troops taking over the airport. Bold initiative! Clever and sleazy. Boy you are something else. Are you American?