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To: American Spirit who wrote (8307)	3/13/2004 8:04:43 PM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20773

If what you say is true, Enron wouldn't have unravelled. Enron built up initially during Clinton's term. There is plenty of corruption in government, in corporate America and in big oil. My prior posts to you about Saudi Arabia go unanswered, except your points that Bush is connected to the Saudis generationally. The simple fact is that not much has changed. I'm not saying that is good or bad. You do your candidate a disservice by spinning yarns that want to blame everything on the actions of the past 3 years. It's just impossible to change a huge ship in that period. There is much to attack about the current administration. You do your candidate a HUGE disservice by making irrational statements, unsupported other than by myth. Again - tell me when Kerry announces that he will no longer buy oil from the possibly the largest supporter of terrorism that targets this nation, Saudi Arabia. Ain't gonna happen. Has Kerry accepted donations from Big Oil?

To: American Spirit who wrote (8307)	3/13/2004 8:34:08 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

Cheney was a CEO during WWII? Yes, you're definitely posting from an alternate universe. During WWII, the Petroleum Institute (I believe that's its name) was formed by oil CEO types to help with the war effort on a non-partisan neutral basis. Dick Cheney was one of those CEO's. They are supposed to provide the government with accurate oil data but this is VOLUNTARY. If you're talking about EIA reporting, it isn't voluntary. Maybe in the alternate universe.

To: American Spirit who wrote (8307)	3/13/2004 10:28:50 PM
From: blue red	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20773

The oil business doesn't share its secrets with the public, consumers or even the US government....They are supposed to provide the government with accurate oil data but this is VOLUNTARY. I'll say it doesn't share its secrets, and the US government has no means of checking its claims. I remember very well the natural gas shortage of the late '70s. The energy companies proclaimed loud and long that we were running out of natural gas, and they couldn't dig new wells without price deregulation. So they got it, courtesy of Democrats and Republicans alike, and natural gas prices shot up. It was two weeks after deregulation that I saw the first report of an impending natural gas glut in the Washington Post. Lightning quick, we were awash in natural gas, at a premium price, of course. The ink wasn't dry on the legislation.