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To: aladin who wrote (34423)	3/14/2004 5:53:20 PM
From: aladin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793914

Europes 9/11 with a typical Euro twist - appeasement (assuming the new Socialist government does what Al Queda hopes). While it appears that Al Queda may have won a round in Spain, they have seemingly lost big in Russia. Putin won in a landslide and no Chechen or Al Queda mischief took place. John

To: aladin who wrote (34423)	3/14/2004 5:53:31 PM
From: redfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793914

"The terrorists worry about the police and the intelligence services of course. But what they fear most is democracy." A nice sentiment, but totally false. If you asked a terrorist, what do you fear worse: (a) democracy; or (b) the deaths of every single one of your living relatives I doubt the answer would be (a)

To: aladin who wrote (34423)	3/14/2004 6:48:01 PM
From: frankw1900	Respond to of 793914

Richard Gwyn almost gets it but he's still mired in the touchy feely nonsense: Democracy is about compromise. It's about giving as well as taking. It's about living together No it's not. It's about government without rulers. The other stuff is necessary for democracy but it's not 'what it's about'. (It's the government without rulers bit that drives extremists to distraction and terrorism because it's utterly indifferent to their desires - which mostly require rulers for their enablement). I could carry on about the mindset of Eastern Canadian establishment types of which Gwyn is a member. Suffice to say, a lot of them shy away from examing the fact that Canadian governments are in place only through the sufferance of the public. From their point of view "living together" is not ever discussing, and surely not arguing about, anything unpleasant, and particularly not the dysfunctional aspects of the status quo.