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To: Michelino who wrote (5649)	3/15/2004 2:49:47 AM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20039

Ummm Michael, Re: Beware the marriage of extremism and gnosticism as it tends to blurs all the nuance. Can you express this in English for us simpler plebs? Re: For example, I'm not sure that every white imperialist thought that he was avenging the time that his great/great...grandfather got his a* kicked by the armies of the Emperor Hadrian.* Say what? The driving motivation of imperialism is two-fold. One, theft is the main goal. Two, the theft is covered up by a high-falutin' claim to be a superior race who are engaged in an act of noblesse oblige, saving the darkies from their own miserable selves. I don't think Hadrian enters into the calculus. *** Re: As for Dayan, for an extreme imperialist, it was very odd behavior to see him so involved with the negotiations that gave Sinai back to Egypt. Perhaps you don't quite understand the complexities of negotiation? Egypt may well have gotten a huge chunk of arid wasteland back, but the Israelis got a hell of a sweet deal on U.S. foreign aid into the deal. Not to mention the fact that the West, and the Egyptians turned a blind eye to the theft of Gaza and West Bank territories by the Israelis.

To: Michelino who wrote (5649)	3/15/2004 3:28:35 PM
From: Thomas M.	Respond to of 20039

As for Dayan, for an extreme imperialist, it was very odd behavior to see him so involved with the negotiations that gave Sinai back to Egypt. Since Dayan was a crucial figure in Israel's 1973 military defeat, that is not the least bit odd. Dayan & Co. were far less conciliatory before their defeat, when they recognized Sadat's 1971 peace offer as genuine, but rejected it on the grounds that Egypt was not a military threat. After Egypt proved them wrong, they changed their tune. Tom