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To: Alighieri who wrote (184728)	3/15/2004 1:19:58 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575598

Al, I agree with you that Spain's pullout is disturbing but not unexpected. In any case, their involvement in Iraq was symbolic with only 1500 troops. Except for the UK, everyone else has a symbolic presence, me thinks. You think right.......its been an embarrassment. And they are making a token gesture in order to get our aid and support. The question is how do you extricate yourself from a mess? I think that this is the worst way possible...that is, under threat of terror. The threat of terror has been there from the get go. If you wait for the right time to extricate ourselves, you will be waiting til doomsday. The damage was done when we attacked Iraq. The best we can do now is try to pullback with the least amount of damage to our rep. Otherwise, we will be fighting a blood feud like Israel for the next 50 years. Bush opened a pandora's box by making this 'bold' move into Iraq. And I'll tell you.....the questionable people in his administration don't know how to get us out of this mess. Consider the following...radical groups (even Al Queda) manage to kill Musharaf and take control of Pakistan, with its nukes and hotbed of radicalism...WOW...watch the US abandon Iraq faster than you can say "saddam hussein". That's an embarrassing acknowledgement.......but yes, I think we are that weak. We bit off more than we can chew and then we have idiots like Rumsfeld saying yesterday he thinks we will still find WMD in Iraq. They are on this one way track [since the '80s] and they have no flexibility to think outside the box. It really scares me........more than the possibility of Pakistan falling to al Qaeda. ted

To: Alighieri who wrote (184728)	3/15/2004 2:26:32 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575598

Al Re....Consider the following...radical groups (even Al Queda) manage to kill Musharaf and take control of Pakistan, with its nukes and hotbed of radicalism...WOW...watch the US abandon Iraq faster than you can say "saddam hussein". If Ted and his ilk, were running the country, sure. There is no way, Gw would. Right now, while Pak. has nukes, its delivery systems are short range missiles. So, what do you think Pak. would do, nuke Iraq, and kill hundreds of thousands of fellow arabs, to kill a few hundred americans. Nukes have their limitations, that is why they haven't been used in 60 yrs, on the battlefield. And while Pak. could conceivably sneak one into the US, Pak. would be uninhabitable ruble afterwards, when we got done unleashing our weapons, and we wouldn't even have to go nuclear. No, when you go nuclear, you had better be ready to win with the first volley, or pay the consequences.