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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (34622)3/15/2004 3:33:22 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 793656
 
who is the real audience for these attacks?

They are their own audience for the most part; potential supporters are only so secondarily. Since an insano-Islamist terrorist is fueled by the loss of pride resulting from being ineffective, from belonging to a decaying, left-behind culture ruled by despots and villains, destruction of the symbols of his culture's failures, i.e., tall towers, trains, airliners, etc., psychically supports the notion that these losers are indeed intelligent, indeed capable of carrying out something that requires planning, organization, and a modicum of technical expertise. They see themselves as being able to use the West's tools to defeat it. And that is thrilling to them.

Terrorism is progress, in a very real though twisted way. It is reinforcing in a sense that terrorism achieves things that that advances born out of hard work, knowledge, creativity, education, and cooperation do not.

An insano-Islamist terrorist uses the things that defeat him to terrorize. In short, it creates a fantasy of progress while it destroys and alienates that which can offer hope to his culture.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (34622)3/15/2004 3:48:42 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 793656
 
Must reading for anyone trying to get a bit of a large context view of the Spanish stuff. The article I'm posting was written a few weeks after 9/11. The last paragraph is especially interesting:

israelinsider.com

Bin Laden, Columbus, and the Jews
By Reuven Koret October 12, 2001

"Let the whole world know that we shall never accept that the tragedy of Andalusia be repeated in Palestine," Osama bin Laden said in his taped cave-side address. "We cannot accept that Palestine will become Jewish."

The allusion to Andalusia evidently refers to the Christian re-conquest of Spain from Muslims in 1492, when Ferdinand and Isabella led the Spanish forces in seizing control of the glorious Moorish palace of Alhambra, a turning point in the drive to expel the Moors from the European continent.

It was not a good year for the Jews either, as it marked the royal edict expelling them from Spain. It was in this year, too, that Christopher Columbus departed Europe, bound to find what would come to be called America.

In bin Laden's remark we see the extent to which historical humiliations inform his thinking. He seeks to avenge the defeat of the Muslims at Granada by the Catholics, and the defeat of the Muslims by the Jews in Palestine. We see, too, how he thinks in symbols: Andalusia 1492 is being repeated in modern-day Israel.

Columbus Day, October 12, commemorates the European "discovery" of America in 1492, and 1492 represents the year in which Islam began to be pushed out of Spain. In bin Laden's mind, these two events are inextricably linked.

On October 12, 2000, the USS Cole was attacked at sea by two suicide bombers on a speedboat.

Exactly one year earlier, on October 12, 1999, a covert operation to send 60 Pakistani commandos to Afghanistan to capture or kill bin Laden was aborted when a military coup overthrew Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

Exactly one year before that, on October 12, 1998, the late Eqbal Ahmad, a follower of bin Laden and a Professor at Hampshire College, gave a presentation at the University of Colorado in Boulder. He said: "History unfortunately recognizes and accords visibility to power and not to weakness. Therefore, visibility has been accorded historically to dominant groups. In our time, the time that began with this day, Columbus Day."

Professor Ahmad explained: "The time that begins with Columbus Day is a time of extraordinary unrecorded holocausts. Great civilizations have been wiped out. The Mayas, the Incas, the Aztecs, the American Indians, the Canadian Indians were all wiped out. Their voices have not been heard, even to this day fully. Now they are beginning to be heard, but not fully. They are heard, yes, but only when the dominant power suffers, only when resistance has a semblance of costing, of exacting a price. When a Custer is killed… that's when you know that there were Indians fighting."

I have no clue whether the FBI warning that a major attack by bin Laden's al-Qaeda this weekend has anything to do with the historical significance of October 12. But for him and his followers, this is considered a holy day of revolution, when the weak communicate through terror to the strong, when the tribes strive to overturn the colonial powers. The fact that an assassination attempt against him was thwarted on that very day by virtue of a revolution must have appeared to him as a divine validation.

Columbus Day, October 12, is a dangerous day for the enemies of bin Laden, and I pray that it passes without serious event. But even if the present FBI alert proves to a false alarm, the legacy of the war against Columbus and what he stands for, will continue to animate bin Laden and his allies.

And yet, in bin Laden's historical and symbolic reduction of the world into a war of the oppressed against the oppressor, there is a self-contradiction that betrays the weakness of his moral argument. For 1492, year of the Jewish expulsion from Spain, is also a tragic watershed for another tribe, forced to flee from country to country after being forced into exile from its native land.

The wandering tribe of Israelites is the world archetype for the freedom fighter, emerging from slavery and exile and Holocaust to return at last to its native land.

By contrast, unlike native Americans and other native peoples, the Palestinians are a pseudo-nation, impostor tag-alongs who largely came to Palestine only after the Jews began to make it flourish. Originally an indistinguished part of the larger Arab nation, they assumed the name of the unrelated Philistines to stake a claim to a land they never owned. Indeed, Palestina was the name the Romans slapped on to the Holy Land after expelling the Jews with the express purpose of obscuring the original name of Judea.

History has known many tragedies, and the world should work to assist peoples displaced from their native lands. The Jews, more than perhaps any other people, have known dispersion. The state of Israel absorbed hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees, from the ruins of Europe and from the Arab and Muslim lands where they "enjoyed" second-class dhimmi status.

Israel is a nation of immigrants, and part of its mission is rescuing Jews from faraway lands in which they are trapped or persecuted. In the last decade, that includes the Russian remnant and the Ethiopian "House of Israel." The real tragedy of the Middle East is that the Arab States have kept Palestinian refugees in camps, fostering a culture of hatred and resentment and revenge, rather than resettling them or encouraging them to do something constructive with their lives.

This is not to say that there are no displaced or suffering Arabs, or that the phoniness of Palestinian claims and propaganda means that the human rights of individual Arabs should be ignored. But it does mean that the burden of resettling Arab refugees should fall primarily on the Arab States. And it also suggests that self-identified Palestinians should concentrate on building their own nation on part of the land, rather than denying the Jews their fair share of what was originally theirs before they were forcibly dispersed.

Osama bin Laden represents the failure of true revolution, and a disaster in the making for the Palestinians in particular: his message is only endless destruction. By the same token, Israel--a nation of returning natives from the four corners of the Earth--is the truly revolutionary country, while those who, like bin Laden, "cannot accept that Palestine will become Jewish," are the ones who literally missed the boat. And so, as even the Palestinians say with genuine dismay, he is "hijacking" their cause, at their great peril. They are aboard his jet, and he holds the box-cutter.

"Palestine" is the name given by the imperialists, colonialists, and terrorists--from Rome to Great Britain to Arafat and bin Laden--to conceal the Holy Land's original and rightful ownership. Sorry, Osama, too late: "Palestine" is again a Jewish State. The Jews have returned to Judea, never to leave again.

The historical legacy of the Holy Land is enshrined in the Bible and verified by archaeology, all the more reason why the Arabs seek to distort the Biblical record and destroy Jewish antiquities. The Biblical legacy of the "promised land" also represents an implicit bond between America and Israel--one more reason why bin Laden feels so terribly frustrated on Columbus Day.

And it is why he, like a rebellious brat who cannot get his way by constructive work, threatens to throw another destructive tantrum. If he makes enough noise and wreaks enough havoc, maybe people won't notice that he is, morally and historically, a fraud and a failure.

Postscript, added October 13th: Yesterday, just before midnight, a powerful car-bomb exploded in an underground parking lot in Madrid's Plaza Colon, named for Christopher Columbus and the site of a monument in his honor. The car had been towed to the lot after being illegally parked near the crowded site where the former King of Spain, Juan Carlos, appeared earlier in the day. As a result, no one was seriously injured. No terrorist group has yet claimed responsibility for the blast.

Views expressed by the author do not necessarily



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (34622)3/15/2004 7:41:44 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793656
 
To Die in Madrid
The nutty logic that says Spain provoked Islamist terrorism.
By Christopher Hitchens
Slate - fighting words A wartime lexicon.

I can remember when I was a bit of an ETA fan myself. It was in 1975, when a group of Basque militants assassinated Adm. Carrero Blanco. The admiral was a stone-faced secret police chief, personally groomed to be the successor to the decrepit Francisco Franco. His car blew up, killing only him and his chauffeur with a carefully planted charge, and not only was the world well rid of another fascist, but, more important, the whole scheme of extending Franco's rule was vaporized in the same instant. The dictator had to turn instead to Crown Prince Juan Carlos, who turned out to be the best Bourbon in history and who swiftly dismantled Franco's entire system. If this action was "terrorism," it had something to be said for it. Everyone I knew in Spain made a little holiday in their hearts when the gruesome admiral went sky-high.

The Basque country, with its historic capital in Guernica, had been one of the main battlegrounds against Hitler and Mussolini in their first joint aggression in Spain, and many European families adopted Basque orphans and raised money for the resistance. It is tedious to relate the story of ETA's degeneration into a gangster organization that itself proclaims a fascist ideology of Basque racial uniqueness, and anyway one doesn't need to bother, since nobody any longer argues that there is a "root cause" of ETA's atrocities. In the face of this kind of subhuman nihilism, people know without having to be told that the only response is a quiet, steady hatred and contempt, and a cold determination to outlast the perpetrators while remorselessly tracking them down.

However, it seems that some Spaniards, and some non-Spanish commentators, would change on a dime if last week's mass murder in Madrid could be attributed to the Bin-Ladenists. In that case not only would there be a root cause—the deployment of 1,300 Spanish soldiers in the reconstruction of Iraq—but there would also be a culpable person, namely Spain's retiring prime minister. By this logic, terrorism would also have a cure—the withdrawal of those Spanish soldiers from a country where al-Qaida emphatically does not desire them to be.

Try not to laugh or cry, but some spokesmen of the Spanish left have publicly proposed exactly this syllogism. I wonder if I am insulting the readers of Slate if I point out its logical and moral deficiencies:

Many Spaniards were among those killed recently in Morocco, where a jihadist bomb attack on an ancient Moorish synagogue took place in broad daylight. The attack was on Morocco itself, which was neutral in the recent Iraq war. It seems a bit late to demand that the Moroccan government change sides and support Saddam Hussein in that conflict, and I suspect that the Spanish Communist and socialist leadership would feel a little sheepish in making this suggestion. Nor is it obvious to me that the local Moroccan jihadists would stop bombing if this concession were made. Still, such a concession would be consistent with the above syllogism, as presumably would be a demand that Morocco cease to tempt fate by allowing synagogues on its soil in the first place.

The Turkish government, too, should be condemned for allowing its Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan to visit the shattered synagogue in Istanbul after the latest mass murder (thus becoming, incidentally, the first Turkish prime minister ever to do so). Erdogan is also the first prime minister ever to be elected on an Islamist ticket. Clearly, he was asking for trouble and has not yet understood al-Qaida's conditions for being allowed to lead a quiet life. Not that he hadn't tried—he prevented the U.S. Army from approaching Baghdad through what is now known as the Sunni Triangle. He just hasn't tried hard enough.

It cannot be very long now before some slaughter occurs on the streets of London or Rome or Warsaw, as punishment for British and Italian and Polish membership of the anti-Saddam coalition. But perhaps there is still time to avoid the wrath to come. If British and Italian and Polish troops make haste to leave the Iraqis to their own "devices" (of the sort that exploded outside the mosques of Karbala and Najaf last month), their civilian cousins may still hope to escape the stern disapproval of the holy warriors. Don't ask why the holy warriors blow up mosques by the way—it's none of your goddam crusader-Jew business.

The other countries of NATO, which has now collectively adopted the responsibility for Afghanistan, should reconsider. As long as their forces remain on the soil of that country, they are liable to attract the sacred rage of the Muslim fighters. It will not be enough for Germany and France to have stayed out of Iraq. They cannot expect to escape judgment by such hypocritical means.

French schools should make all haste to permit not just the veil but the burqa, as well as to segregate swimming pools and playgrounds. Do they suppose that they deceive anybody when they temporize about God's evident will? Bombings will follow this blasphemy, as the night succeeds the day. It is written.

I find I can't quite decide what to recommend in the American case. I thought it was a good idea to remove troops from Saudi Arabia in any event (after all, we had removed the chief regional invader). But, even with the troops mainly departed, bombs continue to detonate in Saudi streets. We are, it seems, so far gone in sin and decadence that no repentance or penitence can be adequate. Perhaps, for the moment, it's enough punishment, and enough shame, just to know that what occurred in Madrid last week is all our fault. Now, let that sink in.

Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and a regular contributor to Slate. His most recent book is A Long Short War: The Postponed Liberation of Iraq.