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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (7495)	3/15/2004 5:48:37 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Respond to of 81568

lorne, Great stuff. AS - how can such things be true. Both sides are showing all over. Flip flop flip flop flip flop - by August Kerry will be a national joke!

To: lorne who wrote (7495)	3/15/2004 6:13:45 PM
From: American Spirit	Respond to of 81568

Kerry doesn't say anything about unilaterally invading Iraq and blowing off many key allies just because of impatience to allow inspections to proceed. Remember, when Bush invaded the UN inspectors were back in and doing very well. As president, JK would never rush in alone and occupy a country based on faulty, hyped intelligence, and he would certainly never do it either without a pot-war plan that made sense and protected US lives. This quote proves Jk is no dove, but does not prove anything per HOW he would have handled Saddam versus how GW did. That is where the difference lies.

To: lorne who wrote (7495)	3/15/2004 7:32:56 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

So lorne, are you saying that Kerry is strong on defense? That he would go to war if needed. Again he is not opposed to Bush going to war. What he is opposed to is the way Bush went to war.

To: lorne who wrote (7495)	3/16/2004 7:09:28 AM
From: tonto	Respond to of 81568

Think again about what Kerry said: The way Kerry jumps around, one does not know what he truly believes. He has a problem because of this, Kerry said it was clear the U.S. did not need allies nor the U.N. to force its will on Iraq. "The administration is leading." said Kerry. "The administration is making it clear that they don't believe that they even need the U.N. Security Council to sign off on a material breach because the finding of material breach was made by Mr. (Richard) Butler. So furthermore, I think the United States has always reserved the right and will reserve the right to act in its best interests. And clearly it is not just our best interests, it is in the best interests of the world to make it clear to Saddam Hussein that he's not going to get away with a breach of the '91 agreement that he's got to live up to, which is allowing inspections and dismantling his weapons and allowing us to know that he has dismantled his weapons. That's the price he pays for invading Kuwait and starting a war." Kerry blamed France's objections to force against Iraq on monetary interests. "The fact is that over a period of time France and Russia have indicated a monetary interest," he said. "They on their own have indicated the desire to do business. That's what's driving this. I mean, as (The New York Times') Tom Friedman said in a great article the other day, France Inc. wants to do business with oil and they are moving in the exact sort of opposite direction on their own from the very cause of the initial conflict, which was oil." Kerry made clear that the move against Iraq was about more than weapons of mass destruction and Iraq's efforts to back out of its agreements. He also left no doubt he was talking about war. "This is not just a minor confrontation," said Kerry. "This is a very significant issue about the balance of power, about the future stability of the Middle East, about all of what we have thus far invested in the prior war and what may happen in the future."