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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (19884)	3/16/2004 4:21:08 PM
From: chomolungma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57684

As far as household employment I suspect that is just measuring the people who choose to try to make a go of day trading vs. persuing their only other opportunity of a low paid retail job. You should read up on the household survey v. the establishment survey before you dismiss the former with such a carelessly glib response. You're too close to a certain industry and it's coloring your viewpoint.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (19884)	3/17/2004 12:22:17 AM
From: JOHN N.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 57684

I am in the engineering field in Houston. Five years ago the Chronicle, as in the ten preceding years, would typically have 6-8 pages of adds for technical employees. For the last 2-3 years the Sunday adds have been one column on a single page. Sometimes only even half a column. It would appear that job advertisements for engineers and scientists are down around 90% from previous levels. I don't know what the job adds look like in other cities but here it is rather bleak. I have heard that it is similar in many other cities. This would be the first indication of rising employment if it is truly rising. There is no indication here.