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To: LindyBill who wrote (35003)	3/17/2004 6:36:56 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793640

This is why I don't want to go back to "Criminalizing" the war on Terror I understand your attitude about those who, post 9/11, insist on treating terrorism as a criminal matter. But I think folks are much too hard on those who followed the criminal paradigm before that. Things evolve and we can't judge people too harshly when they are operating according to the standards of their day. We cut George Washington some slack for owning slaves even as we disapprove and wish that he had shown the foresight to eschew that popular practice. Had Clinton made a speech announcing he was switching to a war paradigm with terrorists, he would have been thought nuts.

To: LindyBill who wrote (35003)	3/18/2004 1:40:30 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793640

CIA to investigate leak of tape to media Last night, several of us commented upon the NBC tape obtained from the CIA... Well, guess what.... Message 19924733 Message 19925215 Message 19929133 One of the things that amazes me is that you are the only one here that commented on that tape, and that no one in the media has commented on it either...at least that I know of... Has it been pulled back by NBC, or did the CIA pull it back? One really has to wonder just how Arkin came to get his hands on a tape like that 888888888888888888888888 Drone may have spotted bin Laden in 2000http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/03/17/predator.video/index.html CIA to investigate leak of tape to media From David EnsorCNNWASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. officials say CIA surveillance aircraft video that they think shows Osama bin Laden in 2000 was "highly classified," and that the CIA will investigate who leaked it to the media. The CIA often investigates when unauthorized material is leaked to the media, U.S. officials said.No decision has been made on whether the matter would be referred to the U.S. Department of Justice. NBC News aired the footage Tuesday. CNN has broadcast it as well.The video, taken from an unarmed and unmanned surveillance aircraft over Tarnak Farm in Afghanistan in the fall of 2000, shows a tall man dressed in a white robe. A senior intelligence official said the tape is genuine and that analysts think the figure in white is bin Laden.The sprawling agricultural complex was a meeting place for senior al Qaeda leaders, and a training camp for scores of al Qaeda operatives.Pentagon and CIA officials have copies of the videotape. The possibility that the figure in the tape might have been bin Laden helped speed the decision to arm the Predator drone aircraft with "Hellfire" missiles, which can be fired by remote control, officials said. With the technology available in 2000, it would have taken three to seven hours to strike the Tarnak Farm site with cruise missiles or bombs, U.S officials said. In 1998, President Clinton ordered cruise missile strikes on suspected terrorist training camps in eastern in Afghanistan where intelligence suggested bin Laden might be. In the time it took for the cruise missiles to reach their target, officials say bin Laden moved to another location. That attack killed at least 21 Pakistanis, but missed bin Laden. In November 2002, the CIA used an armed Predator to execute a senior al Qaeda official who was riding in a car in Yemen. Steve Coll, in his recently published book "Ghost Wars," says that the Clinton administration at one time planned to seize bin Laden at Tarnak Farm but never carried out the mission, in part over concerns about killing innocent women and children, as well as legal disagreements within the administration