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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (35181)	3/18/2004 10:50:25 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793656

No, c2. They wanted Aznar's party out, they got it out. No, Nadine, your line of thinking does not take into account the possibility that the PP might have won if it had handled the aftermath of the bombings differently. It's quite possible that AQ simply got lucky. It clearly could not have anticipated Aznar's botched handling of the incident. I would love to see some statistical analysis showing how many voters changed their minds because of Aznar's misstep as opposed to the number who changed their minds in order to "appease" AQ by forcing a change in the Government's stance on Iraq. Until I see it, I know for a fact that a substantial number, perhaps enough to change the results in a dead-heat election, changed their minds because of the handling of the incident. The Spanish are not going to appease AQ; they are going to hunt them down like dogs, just like the French and the Germans are doing. No, they're appeasers because they are still clinging to the notion that the terrorists are not their enemy, only the enemy of America & the Joooooooos. Seems to me that killing Germans in Tunisia (or was it Morocco?) and Spaniards disproves that point as does the botched plot to strike the Eiffel Tower.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (35181)	3/18/2004 11:09:53 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793656

Nadine, In your world its become US, Israel and perhaps the brits against the terrorists with no other people involved. I have to agree here with C2. To date the europeans have taken action against terrorists albeit not always tough enough. We need a european partner in this struggle. Insulting the spanish is no better than the bush bashing that goes on over there. We have to get over the idea that if you were against the war in iraq, you are against the terror war. And they have to get over the idea that iraq was for oil or for american imperialism and that wmds were somehow made up when every nation expected them to be found. They need to lose the hate for bush and we need to treat their leaders with some respect. Today is the first anniversary of the iraq war. The euros case that holds water is that the war certainly could have waited a year. No wmds sort of proves that. And if we hadnt fought in iraq last year, perhaps we would have made more progres in the WOT. I dont buy it but it is plausible. Time to work together with those guys, not bash. Mike