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To: Neocon who wrote (126486)	3/18/2004 12:00:49 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Is it "paying off extortion", for the Spanish to take their occupation soldiers off the soil of a Muslim nation? That assumes Spain had the right in the first place, to deny Iraq's sovereignty. Spain is simply correcting a mistake, giving back control of Iraq to Iraqis. That's simple justice, a willingness to treat others as equals. It's not appeasement. I made a specific prediction, about how the terrorists would react to the Spanish election results, and it looks like I'm being proven right, and far sooner than I thought.

To: Neocon who wrote (126486)	3/18/2004 12:13:43 PM
From: boris_a	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The Spanish have just said:"Blow something up, and you will get your way." The Spanish are experienced in matters of terror. When Franco fought the ETA (helped to create the ETA, that is), he used means like Saddam: secret police, mass arrests, torture cellars, killer commandos, liquidation, you name it. Didn't help. And in the end, ETA blowed the junta away. (Carrero Blanco, and I don't regret). So where's "ever wanting more" ETA today? Spain implemented federalistic (separatitstic) structures and gradually the problem decreased. It's still there, and it's completely insane today, because ETA lost all support. We had a not unsimilar story in South-Tirol. Call it appeasement, whatever. Many of the Madrid terrorists are probably from Morocco. And now, invade? Bomb? I don't know. Do you? Maybe in the end, Bush is right and the Spanish are wrong. Let's wait until terror is defeated, until ther are no more terrorists in this world. George W. Bush VI? Fight against terror is top priority, said Zapatero. Every country can expect every help by Spain with intelligence and police. Lesson: Don't go to war without support. Never. It's suicidal. Colin Powell (admins last rationalist) should have told Aznar, 'cause he's obviously not bright enough to grasp essential politic mechanisms. Now we have the mess.