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To: zeta1961 who wrote (35314)3/18/2004 11:50:09 AM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 793659
 
100% on bush/blair sincerity. It was an intel failure and it was a failure on the one cause of the war that was hyped. I remember my fear back then and the way i defended the war was by saying "saddam wouldnt use wmds against us but could pass them off to terrorists for their use without attribution to saddam." So we would have an anthrax outbreak and who to bomb??
But if we now buy into david kaye 100% we now wouldnt use that line of reasoning because it seems(still not sure) that saddam didnt have the weapons to pass on.
Knowing what i know now i either wouldnt have supported war or would have changed the way we approached the post war mess we are now in. I find it laughable that folks here keep saying all is going well. First it was wait a few weeks, then a few months, now its years. Thats the similarity with vietnam. Folks in authority not willing to admit mistakes or change policy to adapt to new realities. Can u imagine if bush said it looks like there are no wmds but saddam is gone and with the help of our allies in redevelopment, we can still have a good result. mike



To: zeta1961 who wrote (35314)3/18/2004 12:23:53 PM
From: rich evans  Respond to of 793659
 
Knowing everything we know now, would we invade Iraq today?

I would submit that we would and should invade Iraq today anyway knowing everything that we do. Knowing such things as the programs for WMD and the buried nuclear parts, chance of buried/moved WMD, the humanitarian reasons, the failure of sanctions,containment, oil for food-corruption, changing the pathological condition of ME by installing democracty to change breeding ground, UN resolutions, drawing in AQ to desert area for attacks by us, effects on neighbors ,casualties, costs etc , etc.What is the opinion here of our experts with the perfect one year hindsight.

Another amazing thing to me is David Kays grand conspiracy theory that everyone was fooling everyone else re WMD that existed and was inventoried in 1998. Such a mental gyration, when the simple explanation that it was buried or moved seems so much more logical especially with the circumstantial evidence of burying jets, trucks to Syria etc. Many seem to love conspiracies and always look to a conspiracy for explanation of events.
Rich