To: DMaA who wrote (553304 ) 3/18/2004 1:31:45 PM From: Johannes Pilch Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 Well. That is not exactly my point. I claim that the disloyalty is much bigger than both business leadership and employees. The breakup here in business is symptomatic of the social decay first unleashed on America by leftists. It is very hard to abandon the guy who shares your most fundamental values and who wishes to work with you to maintain those values. But when leftists use law to force values, specifically naturally contrary values, on those who do not share them, those people, without even thinking about it, begin to detach from their societies. It is our tendency to be selfish, but in a society that acknowledges profit from shared fundamental values, intense consideration of others becomes necessary because only by such consideration can this profit be realized. Contrariwise, in a society that claims no such thing as fundamental values, where everyone believes what he wishes and where the minority can actually abuse law to force the majority toward values it does not fundamentally share, the object of civil life in many cases is to find new ways to run roughshod over others in order to preserve one's personal values. All societies go through some of this, but no society can long stand when it takes place at the most fundamental level-- that place where the definition of "family" and "human" are found. We can exist in precarious alliance with varying definitions of such things as "God", so long as the resulting gods all respect the same essential definition that applies to the worshippers. We cannot survive when the worshippers themselves all think they are fundamentally different from each other. Yet, that is where we are in America. In a world where moral values are passe', financial value becomes the supreme value. That is why jobs go wherever they will go and not necessarily here. Leftists have no one but themselves to blame.