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To: Lane3 who wrote (35601)	3/19/2004 11:53:31 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793845

Watched Bush's speech. Amazingly, I was able to watch it because he was able to contain the smirk through most of it. I thought the tone was good and he sounded very collegial and statesmanlike. No sign of arrogance or cowboy. I'll postpone analyzing the content until I've seen the transcript.

To: Lane3 who wrote (35601)	3/19/2004 12:34:10 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793845

Since you use it a lot, I presume you at least know what you mean by it. Sorry to have imposed. I do. Sorry I misunderstood you. The Admin has never used it officially. The "background" usage that I accept, and that most people use, comes from the old expression, "When I am up to my ass in alligators, I don't want to hear about solutions for draining the swamp!" So we "neocons," (devils that we are), want to kill terrorists-alligators-and reform the Arab Dictatorships-"drain the swamp,"-at the same time.

To: Lane3 who wrote (35601)	3/19/2004 2:54:30 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 793845

"Drain the swamp" means remove the environment that breeds snakes. One example, New York City under Giuliani. I am going to drag out one of my pet stories. I used to do a lot of criminal law, I was on the list for court-appointed attorneys when I was getting started. At one point I asked a judge how he decided to rule in cases. He told me that he had learned the following from another judge, and it worked for him. There are three kinds of people in the world, norps, snakes, and slugs. Norps are normal, ordinary, respectable people who screwed up on Saturday night. Anything you do to them will work, be it a fine, public service, whatever ---- you'll probably never see them back in the courtroom. Snakes are victimizers. Nothing you do to them will work, so the best thing to do is max them out and keep them off the streets. But the slugs -- ah, that is where the challenge is. Slugs are weak. If they are with good people, they are good. If they are with bad people, they are bad. So the challenge is getting them to stay away from bad people. So, one way to keep the slugs on the straight and narrow is to keep them away from snakes. Hence, drain the swamp. Snakes congregate wherever there is corruption. Disclaimer -- I have nothing against real snakes, the long slithery animals. This story is about victimizers. Bin Laden and his ilk are victimizers. They want to take over and rule countries but they can't accomplish that through normal means so they use money and violence. Take away the money. Shut down the places they use to hang out in.