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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (126605)	3/19/2004 7:39:21 PM
From: FaultLine	Respond to of 281500

You give the impression that you cannot tell that Saddam's Iraq, and not democratic America, was a fascist dictatorship. Well said, Nadine. --fl

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (126605)	3/19/2004 11:55:24 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<You give the impression that you cannot tell that Saddam's Iraq, and not democratic America, was a fascist dictatorship.> I did nothing of the sort -- but you should be more cautious in your use of the word "fascist". Hitler had the popular support of a majority of Germans -- that is how he got elected and that is how he mobilized his country for war. Fascists have the means to enlist popular support, and in the Bush Administration many of the techniques used to drum up popular support for unilateral war against Iraq would have been very familiar to Hitler.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (126605)	3/21/2004 2:47:16 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sure democracies do wrong. But fascist dictatorships do more wrong. Lots more wrong. You give the impression that you cannot tell that Saddam's Iraq, and not democratic America, was a fascist dictatorship. Here is the problem: you're a democracy until you're not a democracy anymore. And when that line is crossed, it is always crossed for what appear to many people--probably even a "majority"--to be "good" reasons. That is why most educated people until the 19th century (including many and perhaps even most of the people we call "founding fathers) were not democrats, did not think of "democracy" and "good government" as synonymous, as most of us today somewhat mindlessly do.