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To: Raymond Duray who wrote (10561)3/20/2004 9:36:37 PM
From: NOW  Respond to of 110194
 
i hope you are wrong Ray but on that last point i doubt one could be Machiavellian enough. however, the rats are slowly starting to jump the ship it appears!



To: Raymond Duray who wrote (10561)3/21/2004 1:08:50 PM
From: Oblomov  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
>>wreck the community-supporting aspects of government and
>>create a militaristic/police state totalitarian nightmare

What you say the Right wants to do is exactly what the Right says the Left wants to do.

Looking back on 20th Century history, the left was the clear winner in the creation of totalitarian hells (National Socialism, Stalinism, Year Zero, Great Leap Forward, etc.). However, Pinochet's Chile and Franco's Spain were certainly examples of the brutality of rightist, traditionalist regimes.

Fascism is deplored by both the right and left, mainly because it has elements of each: the smug defense of established private power that is the weak underbelly of the right, and the demagoguery and officiousness that attend the leftist elements of universal unionism and command economy structures, respectively. It's an ideology that all can hate, and "fascism" is a label which one side can always pin on the other in case one is losing a debate.