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To: E who wrote (126807)	3/21/2004 3:05:21 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

res- Do you, Michael, believe we should bomb North Korea now? Unlike Iraq, they've got WMD No, I don't. That line of reasoning is akin to saying "If there are two murdering thugs walking the street torturing and raping people, we shouldn't stop one unless we stop them both". North Korea, with it's massive missile arsenal aimed at South Korea and Japan would be a far greater risk to get rid of. Unfortunately, the Chinese communists prevented us from ending the reign of terror there years ago. So we will have to look at different answers. At least for now... I would support a special forces operation designed to free the thousands of people trapped in Nazi like torture camps though. I would also support the U.S. ambassador embarrassing the living hell out of the communist leader who rules the place in front of the world by showing every kind of picture and evidence we could get our hand on of the atrocities going on there. The idea that we should coddle and walk on diplomatic egg shells around that evil bastard is ridiculous. What has shown to work against tyrants in this day of instant visual communications is straight talking diplomacy (calling evil evil), followed by strategic military and broad based economic sanctions. The thug who tortures thousands and causes the starvation of millions ruling the land-area known as North Korea doesn't deserve to be called a world leader, or sit at any table with those who are. It may not be nuanced enough for those who run state circles of diplomacy, but those who have been nuanced have failed miserably for years while millions have suffered and died there. While they have been writing long dissertations in Foriegn Affairs magazine extolling the virtues of treaties with a thug, the madness and genocidal killing has continued.

To: E who wrote (126807)	3/21/2004 3:11:29 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

res- A great many Americans still believe that Saddam was responsible for 9/11 and that attacking Iraq was an excellent way to weaken al-Qa'eda. I wonder why they believe that. Perhaps they're smarter than you realize. The heart sometimes tells the mind was it right.

To: E who wrote (126807)	3/21/2004 4:45:02 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<<How many Americans do you think would say a year later, if we attacked North Korea tomorrow and the nightmare atrocities of that horror factory were revealed to all, and Kim Il Sung was captured, that we'd done the right thing?>> 1. North Korea hasn't been in violation of UN orders for 12 years like Saddam was. 2. Rather than sanctions, North Korea was being given oil and food for years because of Carter/Clinton deal. 3. If Bush wins there is a chance of enough pressure being put on Kim Il Sung to back off of his nuclear program. 4. North Korea is an emminent danger, lots of dead people if he's attacked, Saddam was a emerging danger and easier to deal with. BTW, I need to thank you. I've never given a dime to any political cause but seeing how you gave $$ to Kerry, I gave to the Bush/Cheney campaign.