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To: Gus who wrote (555720)	3/23/2004 8:28:31 PM
From: sea_biscuit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

It is not normal (less than 3-4% of the population). It is not genetic. So is left-handedness (about 13% of the population). Left-handers have been persecuted as clumsy, satanic, or communists, by people who thought the same way as you do. So this is nothing new.

To: Gus who wrote (555720)	3/23/2004 8:35:54 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

There was a survey of mothers back in 90's I saw on the news. The gist of the report was that mothers didn't believe they could prevent homosexuality in their children, but did believe it was within they power that they cause their children to become homosexual. While this proves nothing, it does support that people do believe homosexuality is a learned behavior or at least instances of it are. * * *

To: Gus who wrote (555720)	3/24/2004 11:46:45 AM
From: E. T.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"That's why the Judeo-Christian tradition is rich with guidelines about hating the sin" (homosexuality). Given the appeal to the Bible in the case against homsexuality, you assume that the Bible has much to say on the subject. It does not. The subject of homosexuality is not mentioned in the Ten Commandments, nor in the Summary of the Law. No prophet speaks on the subject. Jesus makes no mention of it, and homosexuality does not appear to be of much concern to early churches with which St. Paul and his successors were involved. You have to look pretty hard to find any mention of homosexuality at all. This is not surprising, because the word homosexuality itself is an invention of the late nineteenth century and does not occur in any of the original manuscripts from which the English Bible is descended. Here's a quote from John Boswell's "Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality: "In spite of misleading English translations which may imply the contrary, the world "homosexual" does not occur in the Bible; no extant text or manuscript, Hebrew, Greek, Syrian or Aramaic, contains such as word. In fact none of these languages ever contained a word corresponding to the English "homosexual," nor did any language have such a term before the late nineteenth century." Victor P. Furnish in his book "The Moral Teaching of Paul" says the term "homosexuality" was not coined until the latter half of the nineteenth century when it was used by a Hungarian writer commenting on the Prussian legal code. Furnish notes that the King James Version of 1611 makes no mention of homosexuality or of any of its cognates. The first use of the term in an English Bible is found in the Revised Standard Version of 1946. More recent translations apply the word homosexuality to biblical situations that the translators assume correpsond to the meaning of the word, and thus today, depending upon your translation of choice, you may or may not see homosexuality in the Bible. There is no doubt, howewver, that you would not have found the word in any Bible in any language before 1946. Jeffrey Siker writes in Theology Today that to argue that the creation story privileges a heterosexual view of the relations between humankind is to make one of the weakest arguments possible, the argument from silence. He says, "Heterosexuality may be the dominant form of sexuality, but it does not follow that it is the only form of appropriate sexuality."