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To: SilentZ who wrote (185483)	3/24/2004 11:53:38 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1584983

That's probably right.......a war was coming. The Palestinians thought the Zionists would get massacred so they left expecting they could return after the fighting was over. That is not an unusual approach.....people often flee when a war is coming. >However, Israel would not let the Palestinians come back into Israel after the war. Instead, the Israelis confiscated their property. And the Palestinians that had fled had been promised by the Arab leaders that they would get the Jewish property after they defeated the Zionists. Do you think the Jews would've ever gotten the property back if that had happened? It's war! Then why did the Jews who had their property confiscated by the Swiss during WW II expect retribution? After all, like you said, that was war too. I have never said the Arabs are nice, nice people. They were out to screw the Zionists just as the Zionists were out to screw the Arabs AND the Brits. In fact, none of them were very nice people. That doesn't change the fact that the Zionists took the opportunity to do a property grab and exile the Palestinians much to their satisfaction. In this world that still warrants some form of retribution. Speaking of history, have you read some of the Zionist plans from the '30s re. the Palestinians. The Palestinians were considered a major problem.....they outnumbered Zionists two to one. By fleeing the war, the Palestinians played right into the hands of the Zionists and the Palestinian 'problem' was solved. I've never seen a 2-1 statistic -- perhaps in the area made up of the combined mandate of the two states, but not in the Jewish mandate. I could be wrong though. But, once again, most of the Palestinians didn't flee because the Jews forced them out. If they had, it'd be a different story. I think you're wrong.......I typed that from memory......will check it out. Definitely the Arabs outnumbered the Jews. >It's a demographic time bomb. >That's another problem and it exists whether there's right of return or not. Only if Israel keeps holding on to the territories Ah ha.......now maybe you can understand why Israeli complaints that they can't find a leader with whom to negotiate sound a bit false? -- if it doesn't, that problem doesn't come up again for a century or two, and the original Zionist leaders always knew it would but figured they'd have made a true peace with the Arabs by then so it wouldn't be such a problem. Of course, it'll probably always be a problem. There's no sweeping this problem under the rug. The Palestinians declined it because they did not think that the Zionists were entitled to 1/2 of Palestine. You might remember after all that they had farmed and ranched Palestine for nearly a millennium, and then unexpectantly, Zionist upstarts decide they want a piece of the action. I would not want to give up half my property either There were lots and lots of Jews there continuously for millennia before that as well. There were a few thousand Jews and a few thousand Christians........mainly in Jerusalem. There were hundreds of thousands of Arabs. ted

To: SilentZ who wrote (185483)	3/24/2004 12:30:58 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1584983

Hamas War Cries May Not Stir All Gaza Palestinians Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:33 AM ET (Page 1 of 2) By Michael Georgy GAZA, Gaza Strip (Reuters) - The new leader of the militant group Hamas in Gaza is already calling for holy war against Israel. But not all Palestinians are in the mood. "The new Hamas leader is even more hard-line than the last one. This worries me. I just want some peace and stability. The top priority is feeding my six children, not Jihad," said Omar Hajaj, 40, a trader. Israel's killing of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin Monday and the firebrand talk of his successor Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi have led to forecasts of escalating violence against Israeli targets around Gaza and in Israel itself. Fury spread through the grim streets of the Gaza Strip in the aftermath of Yassin's assassination, but some Palestinians questioned the wisdom of revenge, fearing it would only fuel a vicious circle of violence. "People are angry, but really what we want to see is calm and peace," said Dr. Mosbah Salem, deputy director of the hospital where Yassin's corpse was brought after an Israeli helicopter fired missiles at him. "We are sick of seeing heads and body parts. We treat about 100 victims of Israeli troops a month. When I heard Yassin was killed I was sad and worried because Rantissi is more hard-line." Such views raise questions whether Rantissi's radicalism will win followers beyond young admirers who suffered under Israeli military crackdowns. reuters.com