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To: JohnM who wrote (127576)3/28/2004 12:43:30 PM
From: John Carragher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
john can you give us an update on what happen to the people who lived around the 9/11 twin towers and contamination problems in their apartments, condo.

Has the matter been cleared up, in the courts?



To: JohnM who wrote (127576)3/28/2004 12:48:26 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 281500
 
But if the shoe were on the other foot right now and Gore were president in the summer of 01 and had not gone to maximum alert as in late 99, you would be first up on the podium attacking them. And with justification.

Absolutely typical. Your absence hasn't changed your viewpoint one bit.

To me, 9/11 has many parallels to Pearl Harbor, including the ex post facto backbiting. I don't blame anyone, Clinton or Bush, though my hackles get raised when I hear that Clinton did a better job than Bush, or that Clinton ws obsessed with OBL, a pathetic joke.

Some things happen that in retrospect could have been handled better, but which nevertheless do not rise to the level of negligence. I think 9/11 is an example, as was Pearl Harbor.

The politicians of the world, the Bush-haters, the Clinton-haters, and those with perverse agendas, like Clarke, and, perhaps, you, will find a way to twist their perfect hindsight vision into the notion that there is blame to be apportioned.

Sad. But that's life in the big city.



To: JohnM who wrote (127576)3/28/2004 1:41:03 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
up. Had they simply said in late 01, look we were focused on different things, we were caught by surprise, but we get it now, here's what we are doing. And we're going to dump the memory slots onto commissions so everyone knows precisely what happened, the better to do systemic corrections to guard against the next.

Had they done that, they would have been in much better shape now and we would all be a bit safer


Come on, John. You know that's not how it works. Had they done that, the Democrats would have roasted them alive for not having 20/20 foresight, which is exactly what the Democrats are trying to do right now. Do you notice how all the Democratic emphasis this week is on what the Bushies did pre-9/11, and none of it on their responses post 9/11, or on Clinton's responses from 1993 to 2001?

I too long for more intellectual honesty in arguments. But it is not to be found in Washington on any side, because it is punished too severely.