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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (127612)	3/28/2004 5:21:34 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 281500

<<If you flew prior to 9/11 were your bags searched? Were the bags of the other passengers on the plane searched? Bush needs to come clean with this instead of attacking Clarke or stop making unsubstantiated claims.>> Want to step in the way back machine? Back to 1996 when TWA flight 800 went down and Gore chaired a commission, the Gore Commission it was even called. Came up with a lot of suggestions about airport and airline security. Probably would have prevented 9/11. Then the airlines, not wanting to spend the dollars gave $627,000 to the Clinton/Gore campaign and all was forgotten.

To: Zeuspaul who wrote (127612)	3/28/2004 5:47:52 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

No....my point is that there were a lot of things that could have been done by the Bush administration and weren't True, just like the Clinton adminstration. Of course, if everybody knew then what they know now, it would have been different. BUT, if it HAD been different, it would have included a pre-emptive war on the Al Qaeda bases in Afghanistan, and by extension against the Taliban, since they were as we know now quite coopted by Al Qaeda. What would you have said about a pre-emptive invasion of Afghanistan? And when the Sept 11th attacks ocurred anyway (it's frankly doubtful that anything Bush could have done would have 'shaken the trees' enough to stop them), would you have been in the chorus of people acussing Bush of "increasing the hate" and triggering the attacks? Lots of people want more to have been done only after the seriousness of the threat is clear-cut and proven. As you said, by then it's too late...yet, Bush's attempt to apply this argument to Iraq was rejected by the same people now demanding that he should have done more against Al Qaeda in the first few months of his administration.