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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: H-Man who wrote (10561)3/29/2004 2:55:08 PM
From: redfishRespond to of 81568
 
I think the law enforcement vs. war issue is a false dichotomy.

Neither will prove effective.



To: H-Man who wrote (10561)3/29/2004 3:07:40 PM
From: ChinuSFORead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
And what has Saddam got to do with law and order approach to those who live in caves. Again you are off arguing on a tangent. You cannot compare apples to oranges.

Saddam was someone who ruled a country, who had representatives in world bodies such as the UN etc. OBL and the AQ do not fall in that category.

What needs to be done to keep you folks focussed. When cornered, a cobra remains focussed on the object whereas a rat keeps moving from one corner to another. That is why people say not to corner a cobra. Are you like a rat or are you like a cobra. Why is it your thinking veers off and you start to compare Saddam to OBL. Isn't Saddam closer to Arafat than OBL?



To: H-Man who wrote (10561)3/29/2004 3:13:02 PM
From: JakeStrawRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
KERRY'S ODIOUS BEDFELLOWS . . .


March 27, 2004 -- John Kerry this week staged a huge media event to receive the official endorsement of his erstwhile Democratic rival, Howard Dean. Forgotten, apparently, are the months of bickering in which Kerry accused Dean of lacking principles and Dean, in turn, derided Kerry as "Bush lite."
That's how these things go once the nomination has been decided.

But something else has also been forgotten - and it's something the voters need to remember.

Earlier this month, Kerry had to beat a hasty retreat after his campaign arranged a conference call with reporters in which Dean - outrageously - blamed President Bush for helping to instigate the recent Madrid terrorist massacre.

Rest assured, this won't be the last time Kerry is forced to run away from his supporters before November - given the bevy of bizzaros now gravitating to his campaign.

And let's not forget that Kerry from time to time manages to step sharply on his own tongue (see below).

But just when the Dems thought they were rid of the impudent upstart for whom the White House was rooting in the primaries, back comes Howard Dean - with more of the contemptible accusations that made him the darling of the anti-war loons.



"The president was the one who dragged our troops to Iraq, which apparently has been a factor in the death of 200 Spaniards," declared Dean.

That gem came in a conference call in which the man from Ben & Jerry Land was drafted to counter a Bush campaign ad.

Confronted by reporters, Kerry issued a terse statement: "That is not our position," he said.

Whew!

That's a relief.

Though it's hardly the forceful repudiation such a baseless accusation deserves.

Even Dean ultimately seemed to understand the political dangers of his remarks - if not their odious nature.

In a "clarification," he insisted he was merely referring to the claim of responsibility by an al Qaeda operative: "That was what they said in the tape. They made that connection; I'm simply repeating it."

So Howard Dean concedes that he voluntarily chose to uncritically spread the propaganda spouted by those responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Americans on 9/11.

And this is the man that John Kerry chooses to defend his own honor - and whose endorsement he trumpets in a media extravaganza.

This could be a long seven months for the Democrats.

nypost.com



To: H-Man who wrote (10561)3/29/2004 5:20:20 PM
From: OrcastraiterRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
The important lesson is that handling it as a law enforcement matter does not work.

Like I said before your characterization of an either or scenario makes no sense.

The most important issue in the war on terror is intelligence. The second most important issue is eliminating terrorists. That can and has been done by both military means and also law enforcement means.

When you look at deaths by terror under the Clinton administration it is the least number of Americans killed than under Reagan, Bush I or Bush II. More Americans were killed under Bush II that in the previous three. Why? Because Bush chose to ignore the terror warnings from Tenet, Clarke and others.

And if he would have heeded the warnings, what would be the right response? It would have been an intensive FBI and CIA manhunt here in the US looking for the terrorists. That would have been a law enforcement issue and an intelligence issue.

What are you going to do send in the tenth mountain division to get Moussaui in Michigan?

You just keep repeating the RNC talking points. You look dumber and dumber each time you repeat the failed mantras of the right.

It's this myopic point of view that has us behind the eight ball in the war on terror, as we pissed away lives, money and respect in Iraq.

Time to get real leadership. Time to vote for Kerry in 2004

Orca