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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (7919)	3/30/2004 4:24:29 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Geez, Laz. You act like Clarke, both O'Neills, Wilson, Beers, Wright, Brown, Kiesling, Garner, Shinseki, Kwiatkowski, and the 23 former CIA and other defense intelligence agents (noted in Robert Greenwald's devastating documentary, "Uncovered,") all decided to go duck hunting together in order to talk about: How we gonna get Bush! Laz, either your paranoia or your denial is too much. Which is it? Here, read some of this--it might help your understanding of the way things really are: fair.org

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (7919)	3/30/2004 4:44:51 PM
From: PartyTime	Respond to of 173976

And then there's this guy: >>> * Tom Maertens, who was National Security Council director for nuclear non-proliferation for both the Clinton and Bush White House. Maertens' own words tell the tale: "Clarke was a colleague of mine for 15 months in the White House, under both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. Subsequently, I moved to the U.S. State Department as deputy coordinator for counterterrorism, and worked with him and his staff before and after 9/11. The Bush administration did ignore the threat of terrorism. It was focused on tax cuts, building a ballistic missile system, withdrawing from the ABM Treaty and rejecting the Kyoto Protocol. Clarke's gutsy insider recounting of events related to 9/11 is an important public service. From my perspective, the Bush administration has practiced the most cynical, opportunistic form of politics I witnessed in my 28 years in government: hijacking legitimate American outrage and patriotism over 9/11 to conduct a pre-ordained war against Saddam Hussein."<<< truthout.org

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (7919)	3/30/2004 4:45:49 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

And this guy! >>>* Roger Cressey, Clarke's former deputy. Cressey backs up one of the most damning charges that has been leveled against the administration by Clarke: They blew past al Qaeda after the 9/11 attacks, focusing instead on Iraq. Cressey is one of four eyewitnesses to an exchange between Clarke and Bush which took place in the White House Situation Room on September 12, 2001. Bush pressed Clarke three times on September 12 to find evidence that Iraq was responsible for the attacks. According to his book, 'Against All Enemies,' Clarke protested that al-Qaida, and not Iraq, was responsible. Bush angrily ordered him to "'look into Iraq, Saddam,'" and then left the room. According to Cressey, Condoleezza Rice was also a witness to this exchange. The word from administration officials is that Rice can't seem to remember it. This, among others, is a reason Rice is refusing to testify publicly before the September 11 commission.<<< truthout.org

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (7919)	3/30/2004 4:46:51 PM
From: PartyTime	Respond to of 173976

And let's not forget this guy! >>> * Donald Kerrick, a three-star General who served as deputy National Security Advisor under Clinton, and stayed for several months in the Bush White House. According to a report by Sidney Blumenthal from March 25, Kerrick wrote Stephen Hadley, his replacement in the White House, a two-page memo. "It was classified," Kerrick told Blumenthal. "I said they needed to pay attention to al-Qaida and counterterrorism. I said we were going to be struck again. We didn't know where or when. They never once asked me a question nor did I see them having a serious discussion about it. They didn't feel it was an imminent threat the way the Clinton administration did. Hadley did not respond to my memo. I know he had it. I agree with Dick that they saw those problems through an Iraqi prism. But the evidence wasn't there." Hadley has since become a White House front man in the attacks against Rickard Clarke.<<< truthout.org

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (7919)	3/30/2004 4:48:02 PM
From: PartyTime	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

And I know you have no clue who this guy is! >>> * Greg Thielmann, former Director of the Office of Strategic, Proliferation, and Military Issues in the State Department. Thielmann, like Ambassador Wilson, was involved in investigating whether the Niger uranium claims had any merit. Thielmann told Newsweek at the beginning of June 2003 that the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research had concluded the documents used to support the Niger uranium claims were "garbage." In fact, they were crude forgeries. Thielmann was stunned to see Bush use the claims in his State of the Union address eleven months after the charge had been dispensed with as nonsense. "When I saw that, it really blew me away," Thielmann told Newsweek. He watched Bush use the claim and said, "Not that stupid piece of garbage. My thought was, how did that get into the speech?"<<< truthout.org