To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (185816 ) 3/30/2004 12:59:48 AM From: tejek Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572635 Ted, Bush has been using God as a hammer since he entered the WH. First of all, can you name some specific examples of Bush using God "as a hammer"? Excuse me.......he mentions God more times than the Pope!Second, have you seen Bush ever use scripture in a personal attack like Kerry did? How would I know........I have trouble following his speeches but I would not be surprised. He definitely has used excerpts from scriptures to get his message across to his followers. Some links that discussed his intertwining of God and his rule with the-not-so-subtle Messianic suggestion that he serves God on earth. "The First Prince of the Theocratic States of America It happened quietly, with barely a mention in the media. Only the Washington Post dutifully reported it.[1] And only Kevin Phillips saw its significance in his new book, American Dynasty.[2] On December 24, 2001, Pat Robertson resigned his position as President of the Christian Coalition. Behind the scenes religious conservatives were abuzz with excitement. They believed Robertson had stepped down to allow the ascendance of the President of the United States of America to take his rightful place as the head of the true American Holy Christian Church. Robertson’s act was symbolic, but it carried a secret and solemn revelation to the faithful. It was the signal that the Bush administration was a government under God that was led by an anointed President who would be the first regent in a dynasty of regents awaiting the return of Jesus to earth. The President would now be the minister through whom God would execute His will in the nation. George W. Bush accepted his scepter and his sword with humility, grace and a sense of exultation." axisoflogic.com "Great publicity was given to the fact that during a prime-time news conference shortly before his speech giving the ultimatum to Saddam Hussein, Bush asked his advisers to leave him alone for ten minutes. In evangelical symbolism, that meant that a man of prayer was going to commune with God, somewhat like Moses on Mount Sinai. It is remarkable how closely Bush's discourse coincides with that of the false prophets of the Old Testament. While the true prophets proclaimed the sovereignty of Yahweh, the God of justice and love who judges nations and persons, the false prophets served Baal, who could be manipulated by the powerful. Karl Marx concluded that religion is "the opium of the people." But Marx never knew committed Christians like Camilo Torres of Colombia, Oscar Arnulfo Romero of El Salvador, Frank Pais of Cuba, Ernesto Cardenal of Nicaragua, Dietrich Bonhoeffer of Germany or Martin Luther King Jr. of the United States. How paradoxical, and how sad, that the President of the United States, with his heretical manipulation of religious language, insists on proving Karl Marx right." thenation.com laweekly.com And third, do you realize that what Kerry essentially did was call Bush's faith dead? I'll bet you even the "Anyone But Bush" parishioners were cringing at that remark. That's not what he said.....but that's what you want to hear. What he said was the Bush's performance as president sucks. And he's right. So stop with the religious hystrionics. Some people are quietly religious and don't have to show it off like its a new car or boat. Ultimately, that was the point of Kerry's religious comments. It's not surprising that it went over the right's collective heads. They love to flaunt their religiousity while suggesting that the rest of us are heathens....or better, infidels! Who does that sound like? ted