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To: Dayuhan who wrote (37297)	3/31/2004 9:40:38 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793964

What, really, did you expect? For the sun to rise in the east and set in the west. For objects dropped to fall to earth. For matter to neither be created nor destroyed. Stuff like that.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (37297)	4/1/2004 12:57:00 PM
From: frankw1900	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793964

When you take it upon yourself to intervene, you assume some responsibility for what happens afterward Yes. Bush and his cabinet seem to be old fashioned that way. They are obviously going to campaign for reelection on the basis of their security policy and relatedly, Iraq. In Iraq we have a bit of a quandary. If we leave it to the Iraqis to come up with a government that suits them, we will have to face the reality that what they come up with will probably not suit us It's a possibility. The TV event staged in Fallujah was done by those who fear just the opposite. How things actually work out in Iraq the next few years will depend on whether or not the Iraqis want to continue in the Byzantine practises they've had to submit to, or have administered, the last few centuries. The Hussein era in Iraq was the extreme culmination of the medieval way of running ME countries with vast machineries of tyranny and corruption. The US has removed the engineers, executive and machinery of tyranny and corruption. It is certain that the period since about July/03 has been the longest in Iraq's modern history that it has been free of such. With all its faults, the Coaltion administration of Iraq has in many respects, been a huge relief for 95% of Iraqis. I imagine Europeans felt the same way when the Black Death subsided. Bremer and the military are underestimated. They are brilliant. I suspect they've infected the Iraqis with democracy. I don't have time the next few days to read or write much here but I'm willing to make a prediction. When the transfer of sovreignity takes place in July, the only thing the Iraqis will change is the sheets. And when the election happens, more or less on schedule, and the new legislature writes a new constitution, and Saddam is tried and hung, and after the first totally Iraqi election happens, and the new secular government is elected, and they've had a couple of quarters of 10% growth, they will not have gone back to the tyranny and corruption, and the US will still be there. I'll get back to you Sunday or Monday. I find it very interesting.