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Politics : The Iraq War And Beyond -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: BWAC who wrote (3444)	4/1/2004 11:46:56 AM
From: James Calladine	Respond to of 9018

Yes, it tends to cut through the BS about how happy the Iraqis are with the democracy we are bringing them. Namaste! Jim

To: BWAC who wrote (3444)	4/1/2004 12:17:40 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Respond to of 9018

Unmasking the Identity of those "US Civilians" Killed in Fallujah Yesterday In Bush's predatory capitalist dystopia, "out-sourcing" and "privatization" have become the watchwords. Basically, this entails hiring corporate contractors to perform functions usually assigned to US government employees. From prison guards to "special ops" private companies are being called upon because they are subject to less scrutiny and accountability than government functionaries. Now Ron Jacobs (http://www.counterpunch.com/jacobs04012004.html) has unmasked the identity of the US "civilians" killed yesterday in Fallujah, Iraq: "...These guys weren't innocent bystanders...They worked for Blackwater Security Consulting...This firm is one of the many nominally private companies doing the US government's dirty work in Iraq and elsewhere around the world where Washington thinks its direct involvement might cause even more problems than that caused by so-called civilians. "Like most other firms of this nature, Blackwater (and I quote from their website) 'has it roots in the Special Operations community and continues to sustain the skills that have been acquired over the years as effective tools that will support both national and commercial objectives.' "In addition, it maintains offices in McLean, Virginia very near the CIA headquarters. In other words, the men that they hire are trained killers. "According to various news and government releases, there are fifteen to twenty thousand private security 'consultants' in Iraq right now. Add to this anywhere from 500 to 3000 CIA agents and more than 100,000 servicemen and women and one has to seriously question the myth perpetrated by Washington that things are stable in that country. Tell that to the GIs who don't want to be there. "An AP report flashed out of Iraq and available for a while on the New York Times (and Washington Post) website as a video report, stated that one of the corpses had a US passport and another had a Department of Defense ID card. In addition, the reporter was told that the men were armed and driving through Fallujah. "One can only conjecture exactly what or who these men were looking for. If prior counterintelligence activities are any indication, it is quite reasonable to assume that they were involved in some kind of operation designed to hunt out the resistance and kill them. According to a former Special Forces member now in Baghdad and quoted in the Washington Times on October 6, 2003, military contractors guarding ministries on behalf of coalition authorities have killed Iraqis who were trying to loot or attack the buildings. "It's Iraq,' he said. 'You're accountable to nobody. But I guess ultimately you're accountable to the U.S. military for what happens.' "If that's the case, then there can only be more bad news for the Iraqis, especially those who resent the US occupation of their country. Already, US troops have killed several thousand (Iraqi civilians).... There's bound to be more as the US pays tribute to its dead by remaining where they are not wanted and should never have been."

To: BWAC who wrote (3444)	4/1/2004 7:28:01 PM
From: Ryan Plovie (Hijacked)	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 9018

It is fortunate most Americans didn't see the footage of the horrible distasteful acts of savages. Some media in Canada showed the extremely graphic footage. It was simply horrendous. Torsos burnt beyond recognition tied behind a vehicle and dragged before the chants of savages. I have changed my mind. I was vehemently opposed to the war in Iraq, and still am opposed because it was waged under false pretext. However, I now strongly support nuking the whole friggin region. Such subhumans deserve no mercy. War is horrible. But the acts of yesterday are those of subhuman cowards. The Nazis would have blazed the whole friggin village. It is time we look up to the Nazis for guidance. Such terror can only be dealt with greater terror in return. For every one of ours that dies, a hundred of theirs will be publicly killed. Before the bleeding hearts start attacking me I suggest you look at the graphic images and think of the families of those four men as they saw the bodies of their loved ones being dismembered and desecrated.