To: gerard mangiardi who wrote (559747 ) 4/4/2004 3:41:21 PM From: jmhollen Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 I could personally accept one caveate in the termination of a pregnancy - and I expect to be chastized for it when it is my time to 'defend my case'. I can empathize with people who are facing the delivery of a medically proven non-viable baby (one 99.95% expected to die during or very soon after birth), a known total mongoloid, etc., an undeveloped brain(less) baby, or something of that extreme nature - at the recommendation of a responsible Surgical Committee at a licensed hospital (..aka: non-abortion mill..). And, I have to admit to having to wrestle with this compromise vs. my compassion for earthly circumstances. When it comes to "..babies having babies..", I would support a C-section at the earliest tolerable time; where the mother would not have to go to term, she would leave basically intact - and the baby would most likely survive ( just as my Premie cousin did ). From multiple personal observations, over a long period of time, a woman who decides to end the pregnancy of a viable baby will live in her own personal hell for the rest of her life. Hence, her decision and willing participation is wrong (IMHO), unfortunate, self-punishing - end of story. You should watch the adoption-realted television messages about women considering what their terminated child would look or be like 10 years later - that is the REALITY they have to live with - forever. Most of the instances I am familiar with involve misguided family or friends, or economic forces, brought to bear upon the woman - resulting in a poor but irreversible decision she later deeply regrets; usually without equal-time counselling from an pro-adotion source. (..Can't have those goody-goody adoptionists interfering with the killing out babies now, can we..) Where the Hospital reviewed and approved situation described above is absent, the miserable POS who preforms the actual pseudo-medical procedure ( or equivalent violent act ) resulting in the demise of a viable unborn child is no different than Charlie Manson or the Boston Strangler to me. How they snuff the SOB makes no difference to me. John