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To: LindyBill who wrote (37896)	4/4/2004 10:19:33 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793925

Bill, you are wandering. I've said, repeatedly, here that I think there is more than enough blame to go around on this one. When you read the Coll book, you will see more than enough missteps by everyone from Reagan forward. The only point I am making about Clarke right here is that he makes two claims no one has credibly dismissed. I will be happy to read any material you wish to post here or send me privately that purports to contradict his claims. I'm not addressing other claims he made. I would be happy to discuss specific ones and with specific contrary evidence. It's just that those two helped me think this thing through. I do think the attack on Clarke has been a highly orchestrated attempt to paint him as partisan in order not to address the issues he raises. I'm simply saying, let's address some issues. Here are two that make sense to me.

To: LindyBill who wrote (37896)	4/5/2004 11:42:51 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793925

"History shows that Clinton had eight years to take out Bin Laden and didn't do it. Bush had eight months and didn't do it." Bush actually had a lot less than 8 months...... TALKING BACK ....<font size=4>This administration<font size=3> came into office to discover that al Qaeda had been allowed to grow into a full-blown menace. It <font size=4>lost six precious weeks to the Florida recount – and then weeks after Inauguration Day to the go-slow confirmation procedures of a 50-50 Senate. As late as the summer of 2001, pitifully few of Bush’s own people had taken their jobs at State, Defense, and the NSC.<font size=3> Then it was hit by 9/11. And now, now the same people who allowed al Qaeda to grow up, who delayed the staffing of the administration, who did nothing when it was their turn to act, who said nothing when they could have spoken in advance of the attack – these same people accuse George Bush of doing too little? There’s a long answer to give folks like that – and also a short one. And the short one is:<font size=4> How dare you?<font size=3> Message 19964515 No doubt thess facts will fall on a lot of deaf ears.