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To: jlallen who wrote (560253)4/5/2004 4:20:21 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Of course abortion is indeed legal, but the fact of whether it is legal is not at issue and never has been. We all agree that it is legal. So mentioning this fact is not only powerless, it also has no relevance to this discussion. We have all along been debating the underlying premises of abortion, pointing out their faultiness as justification for a law that we already accept exists. It is fallacious here to simply appeal to the existence of a law in order to escape that debate.

Two people are in a pub in 1850 discussing the issue of slavery.

Person 1: "Slavery is right because the slaves are not people."

Person 2: "Slavery is wrong because the slaves are people just as we are."

Person 1: "Well, I don't have to defend against your position because slavery is the law."

Person 2: "Oh, okay. So then I guess we have come to an understanding of whether slaves are people then."

RDW is person 1 here, and she employs fallacy.