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To: blue red who wrote (560366)4/5/2004 8:22:24 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
Every new life has full human genetic code and is just at an early stage of development...I doubt your falling off skin will develop into a child.

A six month old is not at the same stage of growth as a 10 year old...why not whack them too?



To: blue red who wrote (560366)4/5/2004 9:27:51 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Respond to of 769667
 
Well, if we wish to get to the heart of abortion morality, we must find the objective point in nature where human biological entities first appear with us, putting aside all such empty-headed subjective notions as "cognition", "emotion", "sensation" and "personhood".

That objective point is at conception because for every instance of humanity, it is at conception that both a complete genetic human logic and the replicating structure that uses the logic, is first present. That very replicating structure results in all human expression, including cell specialization, cognition, emotion, sensation. It is humanity in a nutshell.

Cells do not have this quality. They do not specialize into human eyes, hands, feet and brains independently. They do so only as a result of being part of a bio-informational structure of a human shape in nature. Should we remove a cell from this human bio-informational structure (as in the case of a skin cell), that cell is dead. It cannot possibly become an ear or brain or function as skin or create any other human expression on its own. Indeed, it is not even alive, since it lacks the complete structure that is responsible for directing its specialization and replication. Should we surround it with nutrients, it still will not self-express. For this reason we ought not place great significance in the fact that a single human cell contains human logic. That logic can be placed on a disk and yet no one would claim the disk is equivalent to human life.

The real significance lies in the naturally replicating structure that uses the information in the cell to compel raw biological materials inexorably toward human expression. That replicating structure is first present at conception. All human expression, from the very first human cell division to the building of space shuttles, is directly predicated upon it.

This shows that the fertilized ovum is us, that it lives on a continuum of human expression right along with you, me our born children and our born grandchildren. Since nature compels the fertilized ovum to self-express in essentially the same way it compels you and I, then should we kill it, we assault our own essential character. We sin against human nature.



To: blue red who wrote (560366)4/6/2004 12:03:14 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769667
 
Mr. Pilch wrote you a reply that was a spade of logic. But I doubt it unearthed a grain of understanding blue red or even green.