To: tejek who wrote (186116 ) 4/20/2004 7:48:45 PM From: TimF Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572932 With you, however, anything that is negative about Bush, you will try to turn it into roses. In another words, you try to call a spade a heart Ted I didn't praise the speech, nor did I ever say everything is fine and dandy with Iraq. You find me defending Bush because the extreme and false statements that are made against him. I do not attack anything negative that is said about Bush and in fact I have said negative things about him myself. I'd rather he win the next election the Kerry but he is far from an ideal dream candidate for me. He is even far from being an ideal realistic candidate for me. But if I say he didn't make a specific false statement I get accused of saying he always tells the truth or I get accused of playing word games because he made another statement different then the one I said he didn't make. If I say I would rather have him as president then Kerry, or Gore, or Clinton I get accused of being "highly partisan" and in your latest post I am basically accused of being a liar. Trying to deal with issues raised by some people here is like trying to nail down a liquid. If I nail it solidly it just flows around somewhere else changing its shape. The original argument isn't defended or conceded instead a new argument comes up and its supporters claim its the same as the original argument and then they attack me for pointing out the real differences. If I support Bush, and not in a great positive way but rather only in reaction to what I see as inaccurate attacks against me, then I am supposedly highly partisan, while the attacks, which are more extreme in substance and style then anything I post here are apparently immune from this charge... If I say Iraq is a mess I'm a partisan defender of Bush because I don't call it a disaster, if I say Bush has been secretive and some of his statements where false I am again a partisan supporter of Bush because I don't call him the king of all liars. That is just a big load of repulsive nonsense. Tim