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To: LindyBill who wrote (38552)4/8/2004 6:31:06 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793954
 
The Kerrey flip-flop - He wrote the "Clarke is wrong" piece for the WSJ that I posted today, then went after Condi. She nailed him.

Useful Fools - Condi Conquers Kerrey

Under hostile questioning by comissioner Bob Kerrey about why the administration didn't respond to the attack on the USS Cole (which took place during the Clinton administration), Condi took Bob Kerrey to the cleaners:

KERREY:
...

So I just _ why didn't we respond to the Cole?

RICE: Well, we...

KERREY: Why didn't we swat that fly?

RICE: I believe that there's a question of whether or not you respond in a tactical sense or whether you respond in a strategic sense; whether or not you decide that you're going to respond to every attack with minimal use of military force and go after every _ on a kind of tit-for-tat basis.

By the way, in that memo, Dick Clarke talks about not doing this tit-for-tat, doing this on the time of our choosing.

RICE: I'm aware, Mr. Kerrey, of a speech that you gave at that time that said that perhaps the best thing that we could do to respond to the Cole and to the memories was to do something about the threat of Saddam Hussein.

That's a strategic view...

(APPLAUSE)

And we took a strategic view. We didn't take a tactical view. I mean, it was really _ quite frankly, I was blown away when I read the speech, because it's a brilliant speech. It talks about really...

(LAUGHTER)

Not only is her answer very wise (strategy was needed, there was no effective tactic available) but she mousetrapped Kerrey very nicely.

His response was to get angry and respond with more partisan attacks.



To: LindyBill who wrote (38552)4/8/2004 7:01:34 PM
From: Dennis O'Bell  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793954
 
It's healthy to review those when we're all hiding under our beds about what's going on in Iraq right now.

I wonder what percentage of the Irakians one often sees in pictures standing around a burning humvee are like the punks from the housing projects north of Paris that I saw standing around overturned burning cars one time that I was in Paris and found myself in the middle of some rioting that was going on. [I would have stayed home had I realized there was going to be a "student parade" that day since I know how those things can turn out.]

A lot of this stuff reflects a chance to get away with stuff that was impossible when Saddam was running things, and will be impossible again once a real police force and government is in place. You have to factor out these people from the hard core demagogues looking to seize power (which they won't know what to do with if they ever get it.)