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To: TobagoJack who wrote (48253)	4/9/2004 2:27:57 AM
From: ForYourEyesOnly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

"Those forces are there because of the sufferance of the Iraqi Shia." LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! And of course, they would be there to help the poor Shia even if there were no oil fields in Iraq or the surrounding nations............right.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (48253)	4/9/2004 2:50:26 AM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Thanks for the Stratfor cpy Jay - here my contribution for today: "As bad as your opinion about Mel Gibson's film of the passion of Jesus Christ may be, he made two things clear: the death of Jesus was a beastly affair, and in the Christian reports about this death Jews make a bad impression. The beginnings of the Christianity are thus marked by violence. The violence, suffered by Jesus on the cross, violence, which suffered again and again by Christians because of their religion. Then on top of this, in a bitter story of an abuse of the cross, the violence of Christians against Jewish "murderers of the God" and against anybody, who stood in the way of their crusades. The violent origin of the Christianity seems nearly forgotten. There's good reasons, however, to remember again these origins. Not because of some motion picture. It is because the violence has returned into the Christian West, with an intensity, that until recently nobody could have imagined." see the rest on FADG Message 20005903 happy crucifixion day e'body - dont be late, 15:00, outside Damaskus gate (sg) -

To: TobagoJack who wrote (48253)	4/9/2004 3:14:33 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 74559

It now appears that these basic premises are being rendered false. Jay my leg can only be pulled so far... I'm getting on.. Yep that's interesting as I had the distinct impression that the Stratfor Analysis and Whitehouse public analysis seemed very similar.. (It gets discussed a bit on Frank's iHub thread). I was just pointing out to a fellow poster that the earlier (as in up to last week) Stratfor view seemed a little biased towards the Whitehouse view.. To be fair Stratfor felt a lot hinged on Iran... I think so too.. This current analysis is more factual and less interpretive methinks.. Spots...

To: TobagoJack who wrote (48253)	4/9/2004 9:31:10 AM
From: AC Flyer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Look on the bright side, Jay. The US has succeeded in uniting (most of) Iraq. Just not in quite the way we hoped. When the Shia are joining forces with the Sunni, who were happily feeding them into Saddam's meat grinders just twelve short months ago, the message is inescapable. It's time to throw Saddam in the back of a C17 and relocate him to the cell next to Manuel Noriega. King George is getting the smell of defeat in November along with his intelligence briefings this morning.