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To: philv who wrote (20620)	4/9/2004 2:32:22 PM
From: sea_urchin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81023

Phil > "Iraq was invaded 'to protect Israel' - US official" Shocking, unbelievable. This guy needs to be taken to the woodshed ... I don't know why you feel that. The pro-Israel agenda has been there from time immemorial and for all to see. mediamonitors.net >>>God has promised to Patriarch Abraham the following: "I give unto them the land where they have sown their seed, from the river of Egypt unto the great river of Euphrates’ (Genesis 15:18). And so, in order to realize the words of this prophecy, the Israeli state had to continue, not in the borders it has today but within its broad historical boundaries." And as far back as 1952 Moshe Dayan, the present Israeli defense minister, declared: "Our task consists of preparing the Israeli army for the new war approaching in order to achieve our ultimate goal, the creation of an Israeli empire."<<< This historic motivation coincides exactly with the neonon manifesto, otherwise known as the Project for a New American Century, allegedly for an American empire (and to which there are innumerable references), but in exactly the same region. It is well known that most of the neocons are in fact Jewish and are also ardent supporters of Israel. engforum.pravda.ru >>>... the group predicted that the shift would come about slowly, unless there were "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor." That event came on Sept. 11, 2001. By that time, Cheney was vice president, Rumsfeld was secretary of defense, and Wolfowitz his deputy at the Pentagon. The next morning -- before it was even clear who was behind the attacks -- Rumsfeld insisted at a Cabinet meeting that Saddam's Iraq should be "a principal target of the first round of terrorism," according to Bob Woodward's book Bush At War. What started as a theory in 1997 was now on its way to becoming official U.S. foreign policy.<<< Simultaneously with 9-11, Israeli "hawk" Netanyahu launched his "Conjoint war against terror" policy uniting Israel with the US in a common approach. As it happens, the hotbeds of terrorism which he describes, and which W calls the "axis of evil", are exactly those countries (regions) delineated in historic religious Jewish scripts and in the PNAC manifesto. netanyahu.org >>>The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes – Iran, Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat’s Palestinian Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan. These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum. These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as well as politically. For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden. These offshoots of terror have affiliates in other states that have not yet uprooted their presence, such as Egypt, Yemen and Saudi Arabia.<<< Of course, it's always difficult to establish the difference between cause and effect but the fundamental intention behind Israeli/US policy is well-known and has to be considered in any discussion about the reasons for the Iraq war.

To: philv who wrote (20620)	4/10/2004 7:40:09 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81023

Hi Phil, Re: Zelikow's admission about the real reason for war. -- I saw this item briefly mentioned in an alternate media source about 2 or 3 weeks ago. So the Asia Times hasn't broken the story, but it is gratifying to see it get a prominent article in the A Times. Re: I had no idea! In the frontispiece to Steven Kinzer's terrific book "All the Shah's Men", a history of the coup the C.I.A. organized in Iran in 1953, there is a quote from President Harry Truman. "The only thing new in life is the history you don't know." I see the White House is true to form, releasing the Aug. 6, 2001 PDB at the best time of the week to bury an item in the news cycle. And, of course, they've redacted anything that would really incriminate Bush and his band of criminals.