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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JakeStraw who wrote (13598)	4/9/2004 12:17:56 PM
From: CalculatedRisk	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

We should not leave Iraq; we should adopt Kerry's plan. This is being seconded supported in editorials and commentaries around the World. Friedman (a war supporter) wrote this piece yesterday: Are There Any Iraqis in Iraq? nytimes.com Friedman concluded with: "From the day the looting started in Baghdad, it has been obvious that we did not have enough troops to create a secure framework and to control Iraq's borders. As a result, local militias began to spring up everywhere. If you turn on your TV, you can see how well armed they became while Donald Rumsfeld was insisting we had enough troops there to control Iraq. I know the right thing to do now is to stay the course, defeat the bad guys, disarm the militias and try to build a political framework that will hold the now wavering Shiite majority on our side — because if we lose them, the game is over. But this will take time and sacrifice, and the only way to generate enough of that is by enlisting the U.N., NATO and all of our allies to make the development of a decent state in Iraq a global priority. Without more allies, without more global legitimacy — and without an Iraqi center ready to stand up against their Khmer Rouge now posing as their Viet Cong — we cannot win in Iraq. We will be building a house with bricks and no cement. In that case, we will have to move to Plan B. Too bad we never really had Plan A." Yes, Bush should adopt the Kerry plan.

To: JakeStraw who wrote (13598)	4/9/2004 1:22:07 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Respond to of 81568

Absolutely not fair to the Iraqis to leave now. There are many who are looking forward to self rule and democracy. People like Sadr etc. should be dealt with differently from banning his publication etc. I am not sure how much the US is spending on literature, pamphlet, Voice of America type stuff to capture the minds and hearts of the Iraqis. This should counter Sadr and his publications and the Al Jazeera etc. Bush should bring in contractors from Arab nations like Egypt etc., contractors from Muslim countries instead of having the US military troops on the street along with US contractors. The US troops should be confined to the barracks and called out only to quell civil unrest. This is a long drawn out affair. Bush cannot say that he is going to hand over power to the Iraqis by June 30 and say "Mission Accomplished" and hence "Vote for Me." Once we are in there, let us finish it. We could not and would not want to work with the nations of the world going into Iraq. At least we can start to work with them on the way out of Iraq.