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To: ManyMoose who wrote (562499)4/9/2004 3:18:51 PM
From: PROLIFE  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
don't forget KERRY and his FIVE HUGE HOMES that have to be heated...cooled...maintained...police service...fire service... etc etc etc.....

but he DOES want you to drive a yugo



To: ManyMoose who wrote (562499)4/9/2004 4:36:34 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Dave, this article about reactors and fuel calls using ethanol trips my trigger.

agweb.com

3/7/2004
Policy Journal
by Sonja Hillgren

Ethanol for Cars With Fuel Cells

University of Minnesota engineers have invented a reactor that is both economical and small enough to operate cars or heat small homes with hydrogen fuel cells powered by ethanol. The breakthrough was announced in the Feb. 13 issue of Science magazine. “We’re excited that someone’s finally working on ethanol for fuel cells,” says Duane Adams, a Cosmos, Minn., farmer who heads the ethanol committee of the National Corn Growers Association.

The University of Minnesota engineers predict the invention’s first application is to heat homes in remote areas. Next in line are auto uses.

“Ethanol in car engines is burned with 20% efficiency, but if you used ethanol to make hydrogen for a fuel cell, you would get 60% efficiency,” says Lanny Schmidt, a chemical engineering professor who led the Minnesota effort.

General Motors has promised to develop a fuel cell vehicle by 2010 and is working with other automakers on the federal government’s FreedomCAR (Cooperative Automotive Research) effort. President Bush has proposed spending $1.7 billion over the next five years to develop hydrogen-powered fuel cells to power cars, trucks, homes and businesses with no pollution or greenhouse gases. The Minnesota invention belies a recent report by the National Academy of Engineering that had cast doubt on time lines for introducing fuel cell–powered vehicles.



To: ManyMoose who wrote (562499)4/9/2004 4:50:18 PM
From: Kenneth V. McNutt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
You forgot tapping reserves in ANWR (yes, I know all the claims that it will only last for weeks, etc.)

Estimate by the petroleum experts are 1 million barrels a day for at least 30 years. I don't believe the petro co's would make such a huge investment in pipeline and facilities if the source would only last a few weeks. One million barrels a day times $35.00 per barrel means $35 million dollars a day remains within the US, and not in the coffers of Saud Arabia and the other oil producing countries that are doing us harm by supporting the terrorist with our oil money. Doing the math, I get approx $13 billion dollars a year less in balance of trade, plus the employment, and tax monies received by our government. All this held up because of the ecco-terrorists that our politicians are to cowardly to oppose because of re-election and donations to the pot. Do we wait for the eco-WTC before we seek out these terrorists here in this country, so called Americans.

KM