To: Vitas who wrote (9389 ) 4/10/2004 10:32:21 AM From: PartyTime Respond to of 173976 Vitas, your push of "freedom" on this thread is delusional. You've convinced yourself that America is doing good by being in Iraq when all evidence is to the contrary. Why have eight of the 12 counterterrorism experts in the White House resigned? You think they did this because they suddenly decided they didn't want to fight terrorism anymore? No. They resigned because of the Bush policy, and in a very strong belief that Bush's war on Iraq was misdirected. Pre-war--remember those debates?--there was no indication whatsoever from the Bush Administration that this was a war for freedom of the Iraqi people. That the Administration's original objectives have proven flawed does not give Bush, et. al., the right to change the reasons why this war was fought in the first place. What do you think America's Gold Star Mothers are thinking today? Opinion is now rippling worldwide that the Iraqis are today worse off than they were under Saddam's regime. Yes, a lot of people--100,000--died under Saddam. But how many in Third World nations have died during the past century so that Americans could enjoy the use of oil, tin, copper, gold, diamonds, timber, rubber, etc.? Did our deals with the dictators of those nations ever take into account anything in the name of "freedom?" The Taliban's record on human rights was horrible, especially with respect to women. But Bush sure thought he was hip to give the Taliban 43 million dollars in economic assistance, this while Enron was negotiating to lay a pipeline through Afghanistan in order to connect to its failing energy plant in India. Was Bush thinking about freedom when he did this? Maybe you, personally, should better understand what freedom is before you go about accusing that others do not know about it. You might also consider that freedom is easy if one is rich; freedom is quite something else to someone who is poor, whether in America or elsewhere.