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To: Ilaine who wrote (38789)	4/10/2004 3:26:50 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793832

CB, I agree with everything you say about Al Qaeda, but I disagree with your conclusion: <<<They only have to win once, we can't afford to lose, ever.>>> If it means that we have to become like them or that we have to change our values, it is not worth it to stop them. Al Qaeda may have changed some things, but they have not changed immutable laws. Evil cannot win. Evil destroys itself. Evil can only exist hiding behind a facade that pretends to be good. When Christ teaches that you should love your enemy, he means you should love your enemy. When the Pope preaches that we should not go to war, he means we should not go to war. You don't have to be a true believer, but you have to respect their teachings. I fully supported the first Bush in the Gulf war. I don't know how I reconciled that with my beliefs in non violence. It must have been some superficial thoughts concerning the greater good. Besides, GHB is a person I felt comfortable with. I am not too sure of GWB. I suspected something when he didn't know who the leader of Paksitan was when he was running for President. It would not surprise me if he did not know of Al Qaeda or cared to know too much about Al Qaeda before 911. CIA Director George Tenet's first reaction when he heard about the plane crashing into the WTC was that he hoped it wasn't one of those people learning to fly in Minnesota. He was well aware of Al Qaeda at that time. I am pretty sure he covered that with GWB in his daily briefings. I don't blame GWB for what happened at the WTC. All this commission stuff is a side show. I only wish, though, GWB was more on top of things. IMO, Karl Rove has too much power. I would be much more comfortable if Karen Hughes were running things at the Whitehouse. But I am digressing. Going to war is a serious matter. Going to war means a lot of innocent people will die. Its one thing if innocent people die at the hands of evil people - that is one of the things evil people do - they don't mind killing people. But to be responsible for killing innocent people is another matter. I certainly don't have the answers, but I am very suspicious of people who think they have the answers on this matter. Mary

To: Ilaine who wrote (38789)	4/11/2004 1:30:46 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793832

And we looked the other way, because we were safe. Yes, how true! In every respect. Since 1997 at least, when we Americans were warned that terrorists could be in this country....the blinders started to be put on... And I agree, that the terrorists can NEVER beat us! They could hurt us badly...could cause another event worse than 9-11 by a lot...could do all the WMD things that thinking folks think about occasionally....but they won't EVER beat us. That is, unless people eventually all roll over with their feet to the sky, and let it happen. The folks that think the economy is more important than beefing up security, or our military, or the National Guard are assuming that we will NEVER again have anything happen on our shores, nor to ANY American again. These same folks want to think about "that" when or if it happens, and then deal with it. And these same folks are the ones that are yapping like little banshies that there was a August 2001 memo saying that Al Qaeda had warned us they would cause a big, BIG, event in the US. WHERE WERE THEY THEN????? And WHAT exactly did they propose to do in the month before 9-11 that would have stopped anything. Isn't hindsight terrific?