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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (13762)	4/10/2004 11:22:46 AM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 81568

It's that kind of clear thinking that will convince the electorate that GWB is eloquent. <vbg>

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (13762)	4/10/2004 12:40:55 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Respond to of 81568

I watched the interview. Pick one or two sentences and quoting it in isolation the way you did is a deliberate attempt at a lie or misrepresentation. He went on to say that Bush's foreign policy was the most "inept and arrogant". His solution is implied in that phrase which is if it was he, he would stop being arrogant. You may not have picked up on that or you may have picked up on that but attempting a propaganda. But the American people are smart to have picked up on that since the polls show the challenger slightly ahead of the incumbent.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (13762)	4/10/2004 8:41:19 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Cheney's desire to hold onto Iraq because of his greed for oil is the cause of America's loss of goodwill with the very people they set out to liberate: Iraq. US face a new bogey-man in Firdaws Square LUKE BAKER IN BAGHDAD A YEAR earlier it was the scene of wild jubilation as Iraqis celebrated the tearing-down of a statue of Saddam Hussein by US forces. Yesterday, the normally bustling Firdaws Square was quiet, sealed off by thick coils of razor wire, with squads of heavily-armed US soldiers manning every entrance and exit and Abrams tanks threatening anyone who dared approach. In the centre, where a modernist statue of a figure holding the sun and moon has replaced the toppled Saddam, a recently placed green Shiite flag fluttered above pictures of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. US troops, who last year used steel chains and a wrecking truck to pull down Saddam’s statue, found a ladder and climbed up to rip down the posters of the military’s new foe. American soldiers guarding the square were tight-lipped about their mission, saying only that they had been ordered to seal off the area shortly before dawn. "I guess it’s because we’re worried about demonstrations by that guy Sadr," said one soldier. Locals said they thought it was because the Americans were afraid crowds might gather and chant anti-American slogans in the same spot where a year ago US troops were heralded as heroes. "I think they are frightened, not just of the insurgents but also of the Shiites," said an off-duty policeman. "This is the sort of thing that just makes everyone angry. They don’t seem to understand. If things had gone well over the past year, we’d all be having a big party in the square." The main entrance to the Sunni mosque at one corner of Firdaws was sealed off despite it being the Muslim holy day. Worshippers were forced to use a back door. Loudspeakers blared messages telling people to keep away, while the mosque issued a call to all Muslims to donate blood for Iraqis who have been wounded by US forces in fighting west of Baghdad. Drivers were forced to turn around and take potholed back roads. "This is not freedom. What sort of freedom is this?" asked Bassim Jabar, 32, a security guard protecting a building a few hundred yards away. "This square is supposed to be for all Iraqis, but the Americans have taken it over." thescotsman.scotsman.com