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To: Harvey Allen who wrote (128875)4/10/2004 10:11:40 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Harvey Allen; Re: "Do you see Stalingrad here?"

No. Fallujah is a tough nut to crack. Cracking it would result in such horrible civilian casualties that it would be detrimental to US efforts in Iraq. So the Marines have had their leash shortened. In Stalingrad, by contrast, the Wehrmacht hung itself by its too long leash.

There is a tiny similarity in that our supply lines are threatened, but go grab a globe, and look at how far Fallujah is from Basra (if you can find a big enough globe to see that much detail in that shitty little country). Compare that to how far away Stalingrad is to Danzig (now called Gdansk by our glorious allies, the Poles). Do take into account the undeniable fact that the terrain in Iraq is more conducive to supply movement, that Iraq has sweet highways connecting Basra and Fallujah, that there is no Russian airforce shooting up our trucks, and that modern trucks are better than what was available to the Germans in the early 1940s.

See? There is no real comparison. If we were willing to operate with 1% of the brutality of the Nazis, we wouldn't have the slightest worry about Fallujah.

Where we have problems is that because of our interest in the political situation in Iraq (that is, we want the Iwaqis to wuv us), we cannot destroy Fallujah in the process of saving it. Hell, a member of our own hand-picked governing council says that our actions in Fallujah are illegal. Hitler wouldn't have had that sort of problem.

Iraq is an unsolvable interlocked military, diplomatic and political problem, but it really isn't a military disaster along the lines of Napoleon's advance into Russia.

-- Carl