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To: Ish who wrote (128890)	4/10/2004 6:11:30 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

<She did her job given the information available.> She did not do her job given the information available. Whether or not the people who died in 9/11 could have been saved will always be uncertain, but one thing is for sure -- if she was doing her job, they very well might be alive today. She did not inform the President, and she did not inform herself. Nor did she act to link the diverse sets of information as it became clear that a threat was imminent. She failed to do her job. People died. As for Iraq, she did nothing to help flag the bogus claims being made by several people in the White House -- including herself. She has been a miserable failure. She stayed aloof and ignorant -- as did the President.

To: Ish who wrote (128890)	4/10/2004 10:51:23 PM
From: zonkie	Respond to of 281500

<She did her job given the information available> Her job as I see it is to advise the president. In order to do her job she should have made use of all the tools which are available to her. Part of those tools are the CIA and the FBI. If when she first heard of increased security threats she would have called in the heads of those agencies and demanded that they immediately send orders down the line to all offices that the boss wants to know anything that anyone knows which might affect the security of the country she might have found out that an agent in Arizona had information concerning 2 known terrorists who were here taking flying lessons. From there I think even miss Rice could have found them since they were both here using their real names and 1 had a phone listed in his name. But nobody told miss Rice to do this. Anyone who accepts the excuse that "nobody told me to do that" is not looking at things very objectively. I think if she had made any sort of attempt at all to do her job at least 1 and possibly all 4 of the planes would never have been hijacked. But nobody told her to do her job.

To: Ish who wrote (128890)	4/11/2004 4:09:27 AM
From: Sam	Respond to of 281500

I'd be a little less worried about Dr. Rice and more worried about Richard Ben-Veniste and Bob Kerrey looking like fools and not letting her answer fully. LOL, they were on 10 minute clocks; she knew it, they knew it. She was quite clever at using the clock in her favor, providing usually meaningless "context" when "answering" their questions, limiting her real face time. This is an old administrators trick which she is very adept at using. The only people who don't see this are people who want to pretend she was forthcoming. Of course, Kerrey partially played into her hands with his opening 2 or 3 minute remark, but nevermind.