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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: SofaSpud who wrote (3886)	4/12/2004 11:40:45 AM
From: el_gaviero	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 38220

SofaSpud, The entire area of Jewish/Euro-man relations is one fraught with complexity and difficulty. I don’t mind at all that Jews call attention time and again to the holocaust. It is correct that they do so. The holocaust was a horrendous moment in European history. But I do think two points need to be made: 1) Jews and Israelis have used the holocaust to justify activity in Israel and the West Bank that is brutal and vicious. And also: 2) One cannot understand the level of anti-Semitism in Germany of the 1930s without understanding Russian history. The Bolshevik revolution was largely the work of Jews. They supplied the intellectual energy of the revolution, and they also supplied a disproportionate percentage of actual Bolsheviks. Lenin was one quarter Jewish, while Trotsky, Zinoview, Litvinoff, Drassin, Radek and many others, all prominent Bolshevik leaders, were ethnic Jews. When the Bolsheviks seized power, Jews tended to occupy high positions, especially in the security apparatus. It was for this reason that ethnic Jews did not suffer nearly as much in revolutionary Russia as Ukrainians, Cossacks (traditional enemies of the Jews), and many others. (A small example of Jewish participation: the building of the White River, Baltic Sea canal, one of the most brutal projects in human history. Hundreds of thousands lost their lives. ALL SIX overseers of the project were Jewish.) Eventually Stalin and Trotsky came to blows. Behind the political mumbo-jumbo of that clash was an ethnic conflict between Jews on the one side, and Georgians and Russians on the other. I don’t recount this history in order to denigrate Jews. But I do argue that anti-Semitism in the Germany of the 1930s was rational. The Jews were as prominent in German communism as they were in Russian. If German communists had come to power, it is very reasonable to suppose that millions of ethnic Germans would have been murdered. One cannot deny that the game being played in Eastern Europe in the twenties and thirties was deadly to the extreme. In this game, the Jews were no worse than anybody else, but neither were they any better. For Jews to focus on one aspect of a large mosaic --- their own fate as victims --- is understandable. But for them to make special claims (such as the right to kill anybody who stands in the way of THEIR understanding of Jewish survival, or their right to take land not theirs), is a claim that no civilized person can grant.