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To: LindyBill who wrote (38983)	4/11/2004 2:34:25 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793845

Iraqi battalion refuses to fight Iraqis To those who think the above is a major disaster, remember that Saddam didn't dare send troops into Fallujah either. He pacified the place with secret police and assassinations.

To: LindyBill who wrote (38983)	4/11/2004 2:38:59 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793845

Overwhelming force Wretchard's comments at The Belmont Club: Never in history have 1,200 men stormed a city of 230,000 in urban combat without extensively using heavy weapons before the US Marines did in Fallujah. This is nothing short of amazing because the 90% of the combat power of an infantry unit is embodied in their heavy weapons. And they were stopped only by a truce, not by enemy resistance. When the Marine casualties from the Ramadi ambush, not part of the Fallujah battle are subtracted, the Marine losses have been spectacularly low by historical standards. They are actually lower than the IDF losses in the smaller Jenin engagement (which used armored bulldozers to clear lanes) and several orders of magnitude beneath the Russian casualties in Grozny, despite the lavish use of armor, artillery and air by the Russians. US forces were never tested in extensive urban combat during Iraqi Freedom. MOUT is no longer theory. It is practice. Nor is the American success confined to Fallujah. Kut is being retaken without significant losses.