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To: JohnM who wrote (39034)	4/11/2004 8:20:05 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793897

Awwwwww....deleted. And it was really good, too.

To: JohnM who wrote (39034)	4/11/2004 9:00:18 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793897

Bill, I can tell whether this is your take or Tyler Cowen's. I just posted Cowen's article. You know my opinion. In detail. :>)

To: JohnM who wrote (39034)	4/11/2004 9:25:39 PM
From: gamesmistress	Respond to of 793897

Hey John, I agree with this: improving the status of the education profession is not addressing the problem. Nope. Too simplistic and can't be addressed directly. but not with this: We have put so little money, energy, imagination, dedication into education in the urban ghettoes of this country for the past, well, it's actually hard to say how long Who's "we", anyway? Federal money and laws not withstanding, education is still viewed primarily as a state and local issue. In any event, they're the ones who spend the money. And as far as I'm concerned, it's often not so much "so little money" it's "how that money is spent." How about that article in your local paper, the Sunday Bergen Record, about "rip-offs and managerial incompetence in the Abbott preschools" ? The good news is that most of the preschools audited don't have those problems, but a lot of them are not well run either. NJ is already spending $400 million a year on this preschool program, more than any other state - how much more do you want? As for the lack of "energy, imagination, dedication into education" - how many school systems, urban or not, do you know that reward the teachers who display those qualities? The only ones I know of are those systems that do an end run around the educational bureaucracy, such as the charter schools.

To: JohnM who wrote (39034)	4/12/2004 10:36:31 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793897

Here's the permalink to Cowen's blog on the issue. marginalrevolution.com Cowen teaches graduate school at George Mason, and is a fellow Chowhound. chowhound.com Actually, he's more like a master Chowhound, as he has his own guide to local ethnic restaurants. gmu.edu A man of incredible energy and talent. My own take on the Finnish study is that the real secret to education isn't how much you pay teachers or how high the status is of teachers, it's reading to children when they are young, but not starting actual school until they are seven. Talking to them when they are young is also a good idea.