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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (14241)	4/12/2004 3:58:30 PM
From: Augustus Gloop	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

<<In retrospect it's clear that the information was there to be gathered if only the push to do so had been hard enough.>> There was certainly some evidence but I'm not sure it was anything worse or more informative that the normal daily threats. I can tell you this - what I've heard and read certainly didn't rise to the level of blasting a commercial jet out of the air over NYC. Can you imagine being an Air Force pilot faced with that decision? Whoa.....I wouldn't have the stones.

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (14241)	4/12/2004 4:03:05 PM
From: redfish	Respond to of 81568

The federal agencies are and have been a mess for a long time. There has always been a real conflict between the career people (Richard Clarke) and the political appointees (Rice, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc.). Every four or eight years everything gets thrown out and you have a new boss and you have to start from scratch. When I worked for the government after a while I finally figured out the three year rule, which is that it is utterly impossible to achieve any goal in less than three years, no matter how small that goal might be. So when a new admin comes in, you start from scratch and MAYBE by the third year of the president's term you are starting to accomplish something.